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| chalky143 |
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they pull you over for anything these days They need to get there facts straight and not pull you over because they feel like it
silly coppers
leon ____________________ Current bike :: sv650 minitwin race bike
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| colezxr |
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ive had this before aswell but i got a asbo for doing it i couldnt work out what i was doing wrong, he started going on that if there was a deisel spill there i would have come off, but theres a good chance that i could of lost it if i wasnt leaning either  ____________________ Its better to live your life for one hour as a tiger, Than it is to live your whole life like a worm.
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| Jack_Cheese |
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 Jack_Cheese World Chat Champion

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| tatters wrote: | | Jack_Cheese wrote: | I'm not going to lay into the copper at all because i'm sure there are plenty of weekend warriors who need to be calmed down. Being on the edge of your tyre puts you at a higher risk of losing it mid corner, a risk which directly affects other road users and pedestrians if it goes tits-up, so i think the copper was right to have pulled you over.
There's a difference between the speed limit and an apropriate speed for a certain stretch of road.
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First of all l,m not a "weekend warrior" l do over 300-400 miles a week and have owned 14 bikes over the past few years and my bikes are my only form of transport.
I wasn,t leaning the bike any more than what was required, l was on my way home after a long week at work wearing jeans and a jacket and was riding normally just like anyone else if l really wanted to throw the bike around and seroiusly lean it over l would of had my leathers on and my silders would be getting some use. |
I didn't refer to you as a weekend warrior, i merely stated that i'm sure there are plenty of riders who need to be calmed down. the only reason i calmed down was because i ripped my knee open, and 10 weeks after the crash, it still hasn't full healed.
I also didn't lay into your riding style, i assumed you were going at a comfortable pace for the corner, and consequently leaning quite far, apologies if my assumption caused you any offence, but chances are you're just miffed because i didn't jump on the "yeah, all coppers are twats for picking on bikers!" bandwagon.
| Quote: | To say he was leaning over to far is plain stupid. Lean angle as we all know has nothing to do with speed but the tightness of the bend. Again I wouldn't expect your hopefull pillion to know. But I would expect the police who uphold the laws of our road to know.... |
The further you lean, the higher the lateral loading of the tyre, and consequently it becomes easier for the tyre to lose grip, that's why leaning further is dangerous. when was the last time you saw someone lose the rear on a corner whilst cornering in a nearly vertical position? That only really happens when someone lights up the rear tyre.
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 Kickstart The Oracle

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Hi
So why didn't he say "you were going too fast"? Sounds to me more like an excuse for a pull from someone who had no knowledge of what they were saying.
The leaning is irrelevant on its own. You cannot corner above a nominal speed without leaning.
With many tyres the contact patch increases when you lean.
What next, pulling up cyclists and saying "you seem to be breathing excessively"?
All the best
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 paulodd Crazy Courier

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I've been pulled for this. Was practicing KD last year (Before i could actually do it). My knee was about an inch from the floor and just came off the roundabout to see the lights in my mirrors.
Got pulled and he told me that i was stupid. Saying that i'm dangerious, shouldn't be on the road, can't ride and have no skill.
I just stood there thinking to myself...... its a warm night, theres hardly anyone around, i can obviously ride and i do have skill otherwise i wouldn't be able to pull of said manover.
He just stood there shouting at me for a good 20 mins and inculded asking if i had a family and how i would like it if he had to go and tell them i was dead and how they would feel when they look at my courpse in the church.
He wanted to do me for dangerious driving and said that if i had have gone 1mph over the speed limit he would have done me for speeding.
He also said that i should have looked in my mirrors, and pulled over as soon as he put his lights on. I said to him, that even if i did i wouldn't see him, as in one i can see road and the other sky. just thought to myself.. seriously dude, use some common sence.
Its also illegal to go round a roundabout more than 3 times, thats a joke aswell! ____________________ Paul
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paul the guy might've just had a bad day and spent half of it at a bike crash, or he was just being a twat.
lleast you didn't get a ticket.  ____________________ Tristan the wrote: just whipped off my trousers to find a big bruise on my arse, caused by matt rear ending me... |
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| Jack_Cheese |
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the fact is you stabd more chance of losing it mid corner whilst leaning further, which means you're riding dangerously. In the coppers eyes it's an endorsable offence.
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It is not like power sliding a car. It is like bollocking someone for turning the steering wheel too far in a car. Lean is a necessity. If he was travelling at an excessive speed then that is easy to point out and has a meaning, but no mention of that.
You have a some leeway in how much you lean for a certain corner at a certain speed. At that speed the chances of the back wheel sliding out are pretty much independent of the lean, just dependent on the speed.
Honestly it sounds like he was pulled by an incompetant copper.
Years ago I got pulled up because the "back wheel slid, is there sufficient tread". The back wheel certainly had not slid, and they were in no position to see anything anyway with how far behind they were. And the tyre was legal (although a new one was being fitted the next day ready to sell the bike). Some coppers are decent, some are idiots..
All the best
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 MarJay But it's British!

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I've seen G corner without leaning on his Suzuki DR thing.
But he was sliding the rear tyre at the time!  ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F; Cheap project: CBR900RR FireBlade
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i got pulled by the speeders for the very same thing on thursday night. ____________________ Zhongyu ZY50, Aprilia SR50, Motorhispania RX50, Aprilia RS125, Honda VFR400 nc24 and my corsa
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Never heard such a load of crap in all my service... Wish he's stopped me for leaning too far ..
Ignore it, its complete hogwash and would get him nowhere indeed. Next time simply and politely tell him to go away and stop wasting your time!
I had a cop looking at my cans on Squires car park last week, he said "Those cans don't look legal" 'Don't LOOK fookin legal???
I just replied
"Oh right, you know the regulations do you, you know what your looking for i suppose... Well i'll be leaving in 5 mins if you want to hear it as i pass you!"
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