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blamchez
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 10 Aug 2006    Post subject: M.O.T Failure: Steering Movement 'notchy' Reply with quote

hi all

Im after some advise if possible on my NSR125 which has just failed its M.O.T.

Reason for failure:

1. Steering movement excessively 'notchy' with the weight on the lower bearing[2.2.1a]

the same garage has quoted epprox £130 - £150 to change the steering bearings stating that it could take up to two hours labour + £35 for the replacement bearings.

Is this a fair quote? could i attempt the job myself? or should i hand it over to the pros?

your thoughts please Thumbs Up
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Whosthedaddy
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 10 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy job to do, just a time consuming to remove various parts just to get to the steering bearings
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Gradog
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PostPosted: 18:52 - 10 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It should be relatively easy. do it yourself.
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 10 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only 'tool' that you may need to complete the job is a wrench that looks somthing like this one:

https://www.mgcycle.com/SteeringHeadToolSS.JPG
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 10 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

And a drift. No use fannying about with an old screwdriver or bolt to drive the old races out. An angle grinder is handy to get the bottom race off the stem.

It's a bit of a pain in the arse of a job, not complex but time consuming and frustrating at times.

The price seems about right.
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Whosthedaddy
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 10 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
And a drift. No use fannying about with an old screwdriver or bolt to drive the old races out. An angle grinder is handy to get the bottom race off the stem.


When I removed my steering head on the FZR it virtually fell apart in my hands, sod getting an angle grinder out Shocked
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blamchez
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 10 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

rightiho, ill give it a go.

any tips or guides that i can access on the net?

what is that tool called?
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 10 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a C-spanner. They are made of pure unobtanium if my attempts to buy one to adjust my shock are anything to go by.
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 10 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was fortunate to have one in my dads old tool box.

It was slightly adjustable like this one:

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Large-BRITOOL-C-Spanner_W0QQitemZ140013947326QQihZ004QQcategoryZ31347QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Arrow WD40
Arrow Socket set
Arrow Closed end spanners
Arrow Hammer

Thats about it really.

https://www.nsr125.com/schem19t.jpg
https://www.nsr125.com/schem20t.jpg

They, along with others can be found at https://www.nsr125.com/schem.htm
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 10 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Bit of a pig of a job, just due to the amount of rubbish hanging off them normally (unfaired bikes tend to be worse, with the clocks / headlights / wiring having off them). Getting the old ones out can be a nightmare, but think the NSR is OK for this (think there are small cutouts under the bearing to enable you to get a punch under the bearing race).

And make sure you put them in the right way up. Yes, I really have seen a lower steering head bearing in the wrong way round, which explained why adjusting them was useless.

All the best

Keith
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blamchez
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PostPosted: 23:50 - 10 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks to you all for your speedy replies filled with great advise.

i have ordered the bearings...

https://shop.wemoto.com/pictures.dyn?u=/pictures/bearings/taper2.jpg&i=1913532&a=25618

i have downloaded the shematics...

and im looking for a c spanner as i type.

will keep you updated with any progress!

cheers Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 04:16 - 11 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

a great way to install the new races into the steering head involves a long threaded M12 rod, two very large washers and two M12 nuts.

Gather the parts and it becomes obvious Wink
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