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PostPosted: 11:24 - 19 Aug 2006    Post subject: I'm getting old - I want one of these Reply with quote

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Would really like one of these as a second bike - or as my main bike really and my Ninja as a weekend/track toy.

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The R1200 GS has been a huge success for BMW, and the time was right to introduce the Adventure version in 2006. People seem desperate for a little adventure of their own after seeing 'the Long way Around' TV series that featured actors Ewan McGregor and Charley Boorman on BMW R 1150 GS Adventure bikes travelling the world. BMW sold something like 1,400 R1200 GS in the UK in 2005, following the media circus surrounding the GS in its various forms. So the UK was then chosen by BMW-Motorrad as the place to launch the new Adventure, featuring the 1200 Boxer engine. On the new 1200, everything got bigger and better, but at the same time lighter, compared to the 1150. When it comes to global endurance riding, the GS Adventure stands virtually unchallenged, and it remains the first choice for globetrotters on two wheels.

With a 33 litre fuel tank as the single most outstanding feature over any other bike, the Adventure has calculated a 465 mile (750km) cruising range! This capacity is three litres more than the old R1150 GS Adventure. The handling difference between a full fuel tank and an empty one is a bit like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, as you have to get used to two different bikes basically. The Adventure's massive range is sort of like BMW's own challenge to owners - go ahead, try to find somewhere remote enough that you'll run out of fuel before you come across a gas station!

Compared to the standard GS, the Adventure is a big beast of a motorcycle, mainly due to the size of the fuel tank, and the taller seat height. It certainly does not present itself as the ideal enduro bike, and it isn't. Due to better ground clearance and knobby tires, it can handle much more varied terrain than the standard GS. But only the very brave or very stupid would try to follow a dedicated enduro bike on any kind of dirt path. Some capability is there, designed for emergency use in Mongolia or the forgotten regions of the former Soviet Union. It would work in the Middle East too - certainly better than a camel, although you'll have to rely on your own balance rather than your mount's!

A large windscreen is standard for all those freeway miles that are inevitable if you want to go anywhere from anywhere. When wearing an offroad helmet, the air seems to catch in exactly the wrong place, causing significant buffeting. If I had been a bit shorter, let's say like Ewan McGregor, I would have been fine, well tucked in behind the screen. I missed my full face helmet a lot, and raising the adjustable windscreen to its highest position didn't help much. If you do go offroad remember to put the windscreen down to its lowest position, as it is downright scary not being able to see the ground ahead of the front wheel through the screen.

The wheel travel is the maximum available from the Tele/Paralever system, but it is not as capable as the superb suspension on the HP2 Enduro. The tank, engine and valve protectors make sure you can deal with a couple of spills on rocky ground before you need to call AAA. With the seat adjusted to its highest position, mainly for offroad duties, but also for a panoramic view over the surrounding traffic on the road, I found myself sitting 36 inches (915mm) above the ground. That is almost as high as the 36.25 inches (920mm) on the HP2 Enduro. You can also adjust back down to 35.25 inches (895mm), by means of a simple tool-less operation under the seat. Stand up riding is really comfortable, and both the handlebar and foot brake lever are adjustable.

The hand guards protect your hands from rocks and the levers during a wipe out. As it happens, I managed to crash the Adventure, and apart from a broken Paralever, the bike would have been perfectly rideable after the crash. All levers and pedals were still intact even after the heavy impact with a stone wall. This is evidence of the rugged and solid construction, and in most scenarios (with normal riders, rather than a journalist, at the controls), the GS would be categorized as unbreakable.

The Adventure is not as manageable as the HP2 due to the sheer weight and size of the thing. The HP2 Enduro is a completely different kettle of fish, however - a much more exciting ride, with unlimited amounts of torque available at all times in a lightweight chassis. On the move, though, you only get a 70-80 mile range on the HP2 - whilst the Adventure keeps on going almost an additional 400 miles. So no competition really, but interesting, and I would recommend that anyone considering the Adventure have a go on the HP2 as well, to see how BMW also makes proper offroad bikes with the big Boxer engine.

Offroad, the R1200 GS Adventure is not so confidence inspiring, as you keep thinking about all that weight that can come down - crushing your legs, despite wearing offroad boots. Slow speed manoeuvres off the beaten track are awkward, and the Adventure works best on wider dirt fire roads, where you can keep speed and momentum going. It performs just as well on a well maintained gravel road. If you get bogged down in the mud on a tight trail, you might never get out on your own. So keep it real.

The ABS brakes work well on the tarmac, but you just can't get the same confidence on the road with knobbies. With the knobbies, everything feels a bit looser, and the rear wheel spins up too often when the massive torque grabs hold of the knobby rear tire. This can be controlled, and will allow you to make every tight bend entertaining, but at the expense of excessive rear tire wear.

The test bike was fitted with fog lights, and they do their job of providing extra light when the night is dark and the fog thick. The mirrors stay clear most of the time, despite the big thumping twin.

The R 1200 GS Adventure is not a motorcycle that suits everyone. For some it will just be physically oversized and awkward to live with. But considering its size and weight when fully fuelled up, it handles really well. If you want a 450 mile range for mammoth touring duties, there is nothing else on the market that can compete. For me, the biggest sales points would be the titanic fuel capacity and the rugged, macho looks.
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 19 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep!

Sure sign your getting old. Wink
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 19 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
Hmm must be getting old too, because i have a secret love for the BMW adventure bikes Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 12:46 - 19 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't mean you're getting old Joe!

Wait...yeh it does, my old man had his when he was 50! It was the smaller brother though, the F650.

I did an Adventure motorcycling day out with BMW in Dubai and we were taugh how to really use for serious off roading..climbing the highest moutain, forwading every stream. Shit like that.

Stuipidly powerful bikes with great torque BUT they weight nothing short of a ton! Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:05 - 19 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are only 'old' if you just ride it around the UK dressed like the long way around and look down on anyone else on a sportsbike.

If however you take it on serious rough terrain tours like the guy in the top pic, dress in your own bad arse styling and use forums like this https://www.advrider.com/forums/ then it's cool Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 19 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

quacker_boy wrote:
BUT they weight nothing short of a ton! Laughing


Can vouch for that, My GS rolled off the side stand, fully loaded, fully fuelled, it nearly finished me off picking the thing back up. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 19 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like that adventure version, looks like a beast Twisted Evil
Looks great fun for a bit of offroading too Smile
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 19 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldnt mind a gs, but first id have to buy a small ladder to get on it. Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 19 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like that, but I must admit I love the new r1200s sports bike Smile
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 19 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think its got anything to be with getting old mate
Razz , I would love to have a go on one. And after watching them on LWR they look like an awesome bit of kit.

I think I like them becuase they'd be great fun off road and thats how I started on a bike.

In a few years time maybe... Question
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 19 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too big for me
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PostPosted: 15:54 - 19 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

McGregor and Boorman have a lot to answer for Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 19 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're getting old when you look at one of these and think "Woo, that looks comfy! And all that storage space, too!"

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PostPosted: 17:59 - 19 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're cool, but only if you use it for it's intended purpose - going round the world Thumbs Up Love to do this one day, well I'm going to! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 19 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't realise that your last birthday was your 60th Shocked
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 19 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

you think its good of road ?, wait till you try it on road, i know it aint pretty but its an excelent road bike, sticks to the road like shit to a blanket and more fun than my 996. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 19 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheShaggyDA wrote:
You're getting old when you look at one of these and think "Woo, that looks comfy! And all that storage space, too!"

https://www.phmotorcycles.co.uk/bikes/images/suzuki/Burgman-650-Executive.jpg


That seat looks like it'd be comfy for the old Piles. Laughing Shocked Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 19 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeedy. Me chalfs would love that nice, plush armchair Smile
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 19 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm comfort and storage...

https://www.cwn.org.uk/motoring/rover/images/rover-75-w400-h262.jpg

And you dont have to be seen on a scooter.
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PostPosted: 23:43 - 19 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

a rover? lord have mercy thats worse than the beemer *hides to protect youth*
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 19 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, but you do have to be seen IN a Rover 75. Laughing

I hired out a car last year, turned out to be a Rover 75 on the day (it wasn't what I asked for).

Proper "Old Gets" car.
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 19 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes but its comfortable and has storage.
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PostPosted: 23:49 - 19 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 06:06 - 20 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheShaggyDA wrote:
You're getting old when you look at one of these and think "Woo, that looks comfy! And all that storage space, too!"

https://www.phmotorcycles.co.uk/bikes/images/suzuki/Burgman-650-Executive.jpg


ive got the original maxi scooter the yp250. bit smaller and cheaper than that one. They are excellent sensible, comfortable transport for in town and on motorways and quite nice for cruising along country roads too.

the bmw beast is basically a range rover.

I wdnt mind a go on one but I think they are too heavy for offroad. Im reminded of the bit in LWR where the swiss bloke realises his little 250 replacement is better offroad than the bmw he crashed. For onroad touring id think id probably prefer to have a pan european or blackbird or vfr800/vr750.
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PostPosted: 08:00 - 20 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically you want to buy a bike which works optimumly when driven around the world? Whats the point, looks like a piece of rubbish to me, it can do many things averagely, but nothing well.
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