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lo_iq2000
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I usually fill at the same stations, and they know me. But hay drop the hose on the floor...instant chuckle.... remind me to chuckle as hard when the bike is half way to the floor because of spillage!
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

lo_iq2000 wrote:
Well I usually fill at the same stations, and they know me. But hay drop the hose on the floor...instant chuckle.... remind me to chuckle as hard when the bike is half way to the floor because of spillage!


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PostPosted: 18:37 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The one I use is at the top of the street, a woman that works there knows me and we got to talking about bikes in the pub one day.

I explained that bikers don't like to take off their helmets as the floors a no no and you can't hold it and fill up and you can't/wont balance it on the bike.

As she's the manager they started to keep a list behind the counter of all the regular bikes so there's never a problem filling up while wearing a helmet.

If your bike isn't recognised they wait a few seconds for your bike to be picked up on the CCTV.

If I remember right the reason they ask you to remove your helmet is to ensure that you are over 16.....
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

NSR-AD wrote:
If your bike isn't recognised they wait a few seconds for your bike to be picked up on the CCTV.



Ahhhh... that explain something. A few petrol stations I've been to it's taken aaaaages before the pump's come on the first few times I used that station, but the ones I use regularly the pump comes on almost straight away.
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

FreshAL wrote:
NSR-AD wrote:
If your bike isn't recognised they wait a few seconds for your bike to be picked up on the CCTV.



Ahhhh... that explain something. A few petrol stations I've been to it's taken aaaaages before the pump's come on the first few times I used that station, but the ones I use regularly the pump comes on almost straight away.


Not always, sometimes it's just the incompetent old biddies that can't serve and push a button at the same time..... Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:30 - 25 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i live in australia and the pumps are always on, so whats this about the pumps having to be turned on over there?....was there too many people puttin petrol in and doin a runner?....do you's still pay afterwards?...cause if thats the case i dont see the point in having to turn the pumps on.....ok does this make sense to anyone
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PostPosted: 00:41 - 25 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes well we use much newer electronic POS terminals now and part of the trouble was people paying for someone elses fuel (Usually lower amount) then all confusion was done away with also health and safety law on the forecourt now states that the pumps must be isolated to prevent accidental spillage or usage by a minor as someone mentioned.

The way it works over here is when you lift the nozzle the POS bleeps and then the Till operator presses the "OK" button which lets you fill up, but its not like it takes minutes for it to come on the way i work it is i lift the nozzle as i am opening the cap and it is usually on by then but this is not something ive given a lot of thought about before only the nasty pay before delivery on some stations between 11pm and 7am Mad


Mr Wilson wrote:
i live in australia and the pumps are always on, so whats this about the pumps having to be turned on over there?....was there too many people puttin petrol in and doin a runner?....do you's still pay afterwards?...cause if thats the case i dont see the point in having to turn the pumps on.....ok does this make sense to anyone
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 25 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
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What makes me laugh about this is that they use a "pay at the pump" system where you can bung a credid or debit card into the pump and you can fill up to 60 quid then drive away,
Now forgive me if im wrong but isnt that a bit dumb as you dont need to enter any pin number. any pikiey with someone elses card can fill up in no time and wizz off in his stolen nova.

I think they still have to have the cashier 'authorise' it - this being the case they may only allow them to fill up once they have their face on CCTV.


I used the "Pay at Pump" facility for the first time just the other day. I found it strange that you didn't have to put a PIN in.
It was at one of the 24hr Tesco stations, I was on the bike and on my way to work.
It was 5.30 in the morning, the station was closed.

How do they authorise it then? Thinking
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 26 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

bazza wrote:
Flip the finger to the pump-jockey, drop the hose on the floor and ride off to the next station.

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I've been annoyed by my local BP garage a couple times and would not think twice about getting my own back by just dumping the hose and riding off.
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 26 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's with this "throw the hose on the floor" rubbish?

Pretty much every post here has people saying "throw the hose on the floor". What on Earth are you going to acheive by doing that, all that means is that the poor bloke behind you trying to put some petrol in his car is going to get covered in petrol when trying to pick it up.

And yes, taking your lid off when paying is just basic manners. Simple as that.
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 26 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

carvell wrote:
And yes, taking your lid off when paying is just basic manners. Simple as that.


Having to remove lid and dismount bike before they will allow you to pump fuel.
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 26 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

carvell wrote:
And yes, taking your lid off when paying is just basic manners. Simple as that.


Nothing to do with manners. All to do with choice.

I find it inconvenient, unnecessary and a complete waste of my time to remove gloves, glasses, helmet, put on glasses just so some minimum-wage muppet can have their thirty seconds of power. I don't need to take it all off just for a few quids worth of petrol, so I don't - that's my choice.

If garages want to get pissy with bikers, then fine - I'll cause them some equally petty inconvenience on my way out. It may not be big and it may not be clever but by that stage I'm past giving a toss about the garage, it's staff or its customers.
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 26 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

bazza wrote:
Nothing to do with manners. All to do with choice.

I find it inconvenient, unnecessary and a complete waste of my time to remove gloves, glasses, helmet, put on glasses just so some minimum-wage muppet can have their thirty seconds of power. I don't need to take it all off just for a few quids worth of petrol, so I don't - that's my choice.


When I first saw this subject discussed months ago, I thought "What is all the fuss about"? I used to take off my gloves and helmet prior to filling/paying most of the time anyway.

Now I commute on the bike rather than just ride for pleasure, I am riding "to the clock" if you like. Several minutes taking things off and putting them back on again is just a pain in the arse - both for me and for the driver who has just pulled in behind me who thought that, as he saw me coming out of the shop, I'd be on my way in a couple of seconds - rather than two minutes. So, I generally don't bother now, unless I'm buying more than just petrol. To be fair, I've never been asked to take it off either (Shell, BP, Texaco and Tesco garages).

As for Toby R - I agree. If it's raining I definately wouldn't want to take my stuff off. I'm nice and dry and the last thing I want to do is disturb things and have water droplets going down my back or up my sleeves as I fiddle with it.
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 26 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to fill up daily so when it happened to me afew months back I created havock when I went in to pay, they had to stand there and take a bollocking before I paid up, took me ages to put my gear back on infront of the kiosk.

They havn't asked me since! Wink
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 27 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

vfr800 wrote:
I have to fill up daily so when it happened to me afew months back I created havock when I went in to pay, they had to stand there and take a bollocking before I paid up, took me ages to put my gear back on infront of the kiosk.

They havn't asked me since! Wink


Thats the key to getting your own back.

They want you undressed, get redressed in front of them and prevent them from calling the next customer.
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 27 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ask them if they have anywhere to put your helmet, but also inform them that if they drop it, it will need to be replaced before you leave.

Don't forget to tell them about the cost of replacing it aswell.

Lay it on extra thick, they can't refuse to serve you cos you've got a tank full they need you to pay for! Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:42 - 28 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) Never been asked to remove lid
2) Would not do so if I was, far too much hassle
3) I wouldn't chuck the pump on the floor, just go elsewhere.
4) Chucking pump on floor is surely re-inforcing the attitude that bikers are troublesome w*nkers, or that they were right to challenge you since you were a troublemaker anyway. Either way, its unlikely to do us any favours in the long term.
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PostPosted: 01:38 - 28 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

sn0rg wrote:
1) Never been asked to remove lid
2) Would not do so if I was, far too much hassle
3) I wouldn't chuck the pump on the floor, just go elsewhere.
4) Chucking pump on floor is surely re-inforcing the attitude that bikers are troublesome w*nkers, or that they were right to challenge you since you were a troublemaker anyway. Either way, its unlikely to do us any favours in the long term.


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PostPosted: 02:44 - 28 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

carvell wrote:
Pretty much every post here has people saying "throw the hose on the floor". What on Earth are you going to acheive by doing that, all that means is that the poor bloke behind you trying to put some petrol in his car is going to get covered in petrol when trying to pick it up.


No they wouldn't, the pump wouldn't be switched on therefore no fuel will come out.
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 28 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drop the hose.
Drop your Visor.
Drop it into 1st.
And fuck off to a place more civilised.

Would the arses pay out if one of their 'Un-Helmeted' clients carelessly spewed diesel fuel over the floor so you picked up on your tyres and skid on their dirty filthy forecourt?

Well, would they PUNK? Smile

And:
NEVER..... pay for air either.
Use the places that 'STILL' give it out free.

I was in Italy last week on holiday.
They fill-up your car, wash your windscreen and hope you have a nice day.

What the fuck happened to British Manners?
Did it go out the bloody window when PC came in?


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PostPosted: 13:49 - 28 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:

What the fuck happened to British Manners?
Did it go out the bloody window when PC came in?

Others consider it 'manners' to take your helmet off, so what the hell happened to these manners... Wink.
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 28 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Walloper wrote:

What the fuck happened to British Manners?
Did it go out the bloody window when PC came in?

Others consider it 'manners' to take your helmet off, so what the hell happened to these manners... Wink.


OK

But are we not living in a country governed by the belief 'Innocent until proven Guilty'?

I have been watched by a Hagg Faced Attendant stood at the door of the Shop who thought I was going to do a runner.
A bit of an insult to suggest I look like thief coz I was wearing my crash helmet.

I know that people who drive cars do a runner too you know.

But I will give you the point on the good manners thingy.
But the gas station we are referring to was not insulted by the posters etiquette I think it was coz he 'LOOKED dodgy'.

In that respect we should do as they do in USA.

Pre-Pay before you pump gas........ Karma
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 28 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:

Pre-Pay before you pump gas........ Karma

Some places do this - dodgier areas of London later at night, etc.
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 28 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:

a Hagg Faced Attendant...


What manners?.

Walloper wrote:

...are we not living in a country governed by the belief 'Innocent until proven Guilty'?


A stitch in time saves nine.
One prevention is worth a hundred cures.
Both are old-fashioned sayings, from a time when we had British Manners i think you'd agree.
Making sure that everyone knows you'd have to take off your helmet could be seen as taking the temptation of not paying away from you, which would be virtuous would it not?.

Anyway, I don't think it's too much to ask.
I don't think it's the attendants' policy, so I don't think they should be persecuted.
I don't have to use busy, impersonal petrol stations, and I don't live a life where 2 minutes is an unbearable loss from my day.
Cities really do cause problems...

Dropping a petrol hose on a forecourt is about the stupidest thing I've ever heard though.

If the French wanted to do it, they'd get organised, get 200 bikers with nearly-empty tanks to pull up at the start of the station's rush-hour, and take their time, each going through the motions of taking off their helmets and filling up.
The time lost, enmity of car users towards the company and blamelessness of the bikers would have Shell and BP and all of the supermarkets changing their minds inside a week, I'd bet.
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 28 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

[/quote]No they wouldn't, the pump wouldn't be switched on therefore no fuel will come out. [/quote]

residual fuel remains in the line to spill on the floor....next bike slips on it well be happy about moment of gratification while that bikers fixing his faring at his own expense.
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