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| Kaben |
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 Kaben World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 15:09 - 01 Sep 2006 Post subject: Learning Japanese help |
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For any of those that can speak Japanese or are learning (kawashima, siggi et al), do you have any good sources, references or text books that you can reccomend for me to learn from?
I have decided that I want to get a job in recruitment in Japan, but need to learn some basic japanese before i can get any headway. (its for recruiting gai jin into firms, rather than working with japanese candidates. But i will still need japanese to consult with human rescources and managers etc)
My best mate is moving to Japan in January, and i would quite like to head over myself in 8-12 months time.
Any help or reccomendations will be gratefully recieved!
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 Posted: 15:56 - 01 Sep 2006 Post subject: |
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i will check those out on amazon/ebay etc. I have looked at language books in the past and found it very hard to find a decent one that is easy to learn from.
Having the ISBN for those is usefull, cheers Siggi  ____________________ Its Not a Melon, Its Clearly a Lime!!
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i think i'm turning japanese, i think i'm turning japanese, i really think so..
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| Kaben |
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 Kaben World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 20:47 - 01 Sep 2006 Post subject: |
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I cant seem to find either of those tuttle books I can only find the dictionaries, which is not what i want.
If you see it anywhere pls let me know! ____________________ Its Not a Melon, Its Clearly a Lime!!
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 Posted: 21:21 - 01 Sep 2006 Post subject: |
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Hehe, ok
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I've got a little program on my pc that's good for starting out. I used it for a while and picked up the basics. PM me if you want to give it a shot. It's only a little file.
Edit: Ok it's actually about 50Mb so forget what I said...  ____________________ Honda NSR125R -> Suzuki GSXR400R GK76a -> Kawasaki ZX636 B1H -> Honda CBR400RR NC29 -> Nothing 
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| Siggi wrote: | Easy or hard, depends on how your brain is wired. It's a very limited language in terms of it's 'mechanical structure', which makes it easy to master on a 'mechanical level'. It's ordered, logical and precise.
Unfortunately that limits it, which is why context and nuance are used to allow full communication. And it's the context and nuance that are hard to master.
That's just the speaking and listening. The various alphabets are another layer of complexity entirely. Kanji, Hiragana, Katakana and Romajii.
Kanji is the pictogram alphabet, and you need at least 2000 to be able to read a shite tabloid.
Hiragana is the Japanese phonetic alphabet, used for native Japanese words.
Katakana is the Japanese phonetic alphabet used for foreign words.
Romajii is the western alphabet used for Japanese words. |
Whereas the english language is like something thats been written on a public loo wall, changed and been added to repeatedly, the most recent changes are such because of illiterate chavs. ____________________ Past -Honda qr50 | 2004 Peugeot Tkr s 50| | 1996 Yamaha XJ600s Diversion|| 2005|Kawasaki Z750s | | 2006 Yamaha FZ6 Fazer |
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 Posted: 09:09 - 06 Sep 2006 Post subject: |
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Kaben,
I just found 'Teach Yourself Japanese' on my PC in WMA format - I don't mind 'lending' you a copy if your interested. It looks like it's just basic things, but I've never used it.
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 Posted: 22:32 - 06 Sep 2006 Post subject: |
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ROM:
I would take out personal health insurance to cover me incase something bad happens to me and i will use a gai jin letting agency to sort out a flat/apartment. Ideally i will meet some nice japanese/gai jin people to move in with. I met some when i was travelling and stayed in there apartment for a week in Tokyo! saved me a bomb, and i just cooked for them- im not a bad cook you see.
I will secure a job before i arrive in japan, so hopefully my employer may even help sort out accomodation.
i understand your concerns though, and thankyou
Icey: cheers for that offer, i may take you up on it. im just downloading a "sample" of a language package from the internet. I think its called rossetta stone. ____________________ Its Not a Melon, Its Clearly a Lime!!
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isnt the japanese and chinese "tonal" so 1 word can mean totaly different things depending on a slight change in how you say it? cool that you are learning it, i fanced a go at that and will try oneday, i want to learn italian as it just sounds a great laungage and want to vist itay and russian as its sounds cool really angry at times and can read all the cool stuff in old soviet trucks etc ____________________ 2nd time around CBT: 8/9/11
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Japanese has no tonality.....
Chinese, well there are alot of different Chinese languages but Cantonese and Mandarin are both tonal I belive. ____________________ current bike: GSX-R 750 K6 stolen, found the next day in a van in Durham, returned to me 3 months later costing me my NCB and my excess...
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 Annabella Like a person, only smaller

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Ma, MA, MAH,..... music makes me so hard makes me say oh my lord. (sorry couldn't resist a bit of Hammer Time)
I live out in Hong Kong for 21 years and Madarin is super tonal so you have to watch out, but cantonese, if you say it loud enough and aggressive enough, and spit at the end of your sentence, the message will get through... ____________________ current bike: GSX-R 750 K6 stolen, found the next day in a van in Durham, returned to me 3 months later costing me my NCB and my excess...
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 Annabella Like a person, only smaller

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