Resend my activation email : Register : Log in 
BCF: Bike Chat Forums


Filtering question..

Reply to topic
Bike Chat Forums Index -> General Bike Chat
View previous topic : View next topic  
Author Message

Rob-B
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 21 May 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:29 - 19 Sep 2006    Post subject: Filtering question.. Reply with quote

This may be a stupid question but can you tell me if I am doing the right thing.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/Robmysters/fgs.jpg

As you can see by my detailed diagram I have filtered past cars and wish to get into the gap. Is it right to go to the car infront and pull in behind it or to just nip infront of the car to the side of me?

I do the green arrow..

thanks Very Happy
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

8316
Could Be A Chat Bot



Joined: 08 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:32 - 19 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

red looks like you are cutting other driver and don't want to carry on filtering.
green looks fine, as though you are going to carry on filternig-just don't stay like that if you aren't going anywhere-you'll annoy the driver
____________________
Now own a Fireblade!! Speed Limits? Bah!
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

narb
Borekit Bruiser



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:32 - 19 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if the green arrow way is the right way, but the red arrow way is certainly the wrong way. Most motorcyclists I've seen do what you do.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Finglonga
World Chat Champion



Joined: 27 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:00 - 19 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I just tuck in behind the front car leaving enough room to go back out again if needed(as the green arrow but not so far in to the center of the car and as close).
____________________
Andy Sez....
F.Y.Y.F.F.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

landy.s11a
Scooby Slapper



Joined: 19 May 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:12 - 19 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Green looks good to me Thumbs Up
____________________
"Speed:The thing about speed is that you can't catch the people who've attained it to ask them how they got so fast. You chase them day after day, until you find yourself getting closer. Then you catch them, and realize that your question has just been answered."
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Aikman666
World Chat Champion



Joined: 20 Dec 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:18 - 19 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually do the green, but you'd be suprised at the fucks who undertake you as they take off like a rocket JUST because you are filtering. If someone has left a big enough gap, get in there, less chance the cager can fuck you over.
____________________
Will work for petrol
My Design Blog
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

hmmmnz
Super Spammer



Joined: 22 Aug 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:44 - 19 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

just sit as close to the center line as you can, don't get in behind the car in front, you don't know if he is gunna slam on his brakes because hes pissed off that he has to wait in traffic, and you can go past,
i would only go in behind the car in front if i had to go into a side street or had to move out the way of a bus.
just my opinion of course
____________________
the humans are dead
I kick arse for the lord
Wiring Diagrams BIDNIP it bitches
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

BFG
Brolly Dolly



Joined: 14 Feb 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:07 - 19 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the cars are moving (assume yes, as no-one ever leaves a gap like that), stay on the white line.

Green is better than red for a single rider, except that you're on his bumper. But I would say stay out on the white line unless there's an immediate hazard. Can't see from the diagram if there's meant to be a junction up ahead.

Good advice is to think of filtering as creating another lane for bikes. Act exactly as if you were moving between lanes on a dual carriageway (except don't signal). If you intend to filter past the third car as soon as it's safe, staying on the white line keeps you visible and conveys your intent clearly. Tucking between cars hides you from traffic and means you have to manouver yourself in order to make progress. It also means you have to watch your back for other bikes.

When you want to move between the filtering "lane" and the proper lane, do proper observation etc.



Excellent filtering advice here:
https://www.motorcycle-training.f2s.com/filtering.html
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Pte1643
Nearly there...



Joined: 07 Aug 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:17 - 19 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with BFG. Just stay on the white line, and tuck in when necessary. But also watch out for the ar$ehole$ that move out to the white line to stop you.

A shout of "Wanker" as you eventually go past is the key. Wink
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Itchy
Super Spammer



Joined: 07 Apr 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 20:47 - 19 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

green but personally I'd keep going straight ahead
____________________
Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Jack_Cheese
World Chat Champion



Joined: 14 Jul 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:08 - 19 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pte1643 wrote:
I agree with BFG. Just stay on the white line, and tuck in when necessary. But also watch out for the ar$ehole$ that move out to the white line to stop you.

A shout of "Wanker" as you eventually go past is the key. Wink


Never had much of that. I get the odd racder though, which i casually eliminate on a 2t 125. Razz

Jack
____________________
www.bikepics.com/members/jackcheese <--- NOW FOR SALE! 51 Plate Cagiva Planet 125
Quacker_boy: "Jack, you really are a dick!"
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

headlamp
World Chat Champion



Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:35 - 19 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My view is that I'd go somewhere in between both the red & green arrow - Iwouldn't go all the way into the middle lane - just enough so that the driver in front 'sees' your headlight in his wing mirror so (in theory) he's aware of you & that you can nip out again if you want to continue filtering.
____________________
Using a mobile phone while driving a car should be made a capital offence!
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

TheShaggyDA
Repost Police



Joined: 14 Jun 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:37 - 19 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jack_Cheese wrote:
I get the odd racder though, which i casually eliminate on a 2t 125. Razz


What, choke them on the fumes? Smile
____________________
Current: CB500 Previous: CB100N, CB250RS, XJ900F, GT550, GPZ750R/1000RX, AJS M16, R100RT, Enfield Bullet

[i:6e3bfc7581]But still I fear and still I dare not laugh at the madman...[/i:6e3bfc7581]
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

Pete.
Super Spammer



Joined: 22 Aug 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:52 - 19 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep yourself in the line of sight of the car in front's offside mirror. If you move out of it he might lose sight of you "between" his mirrors. It also gives you the best view of the road ahead, increases your chances of being spotted by other bikes filtering in the opposite direction and gives you an escape route if the traffic in front does any emergancy braking.

If you are filtering on a dual-carriageway between two lanes, any car on the right would lose sight of you from their mirrors (or check their mirror and not see you there) if you have moved to the left. If the gap you are moving into is big enough to hold another car there's a high risk that you will get lane-chopped, especially if you approaching stationary traffic or an off-ramp. People often use junctions to jump queues by going down the off-ramp and up the other side, and if they spot the chance to jump out of the queue they might jump lanes without checking for bikes.

The only time I move across to the left is when both lanes are slowing but the right is more congested but the left has large gaps (four car lengths or more). This happens often again when slow-moving cars jump out of the left lane to take an off-ramp leaving large gaps. The odds on getting lane-chopped here are so great I move to the far left until I've caught up behind the car up in front. This gives the best possible chance of being spotted by, or avoiding getting hit by a car switching lanes suddenly.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

Jack_Cheese
World Chat Champion



Joined: 14 Jul 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:52 - 19 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheShaggyDA wrote:
Jack_Cheese wrote:
I get the odd racer though, which i casually eliminate on a 2t 125. Razz


What, choke them on the fumes? Smile


You'd be suprised how easy it is to eliminate most cars on a 125. I normally pop the front wheel up whilst flying off, just to add to the embarassment. I came across a vw passat estate t'other day, all blinged up. Was definitely at the higher end of the range. He got absolutely annihilated.
____________________
www.bikepics.com/members/jackcheese <--- NOW FOR SALE! 51 Plate Cagiva Planet 125
Quacker_boy: "Jack, you really are a dick!"
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

trevoriv
World Chat Champion



Joined: 04 Jun 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 23:52 - 19 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

See attachment - blue line for teh win Thumbs Up
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts
Old Thread Alert!

The last post was made 19 years, 96 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful?
  Display posts from previous:   
This page may contain affiliate links, which means we may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. By clicking on an affiliate link, you accept that third-party cookies will be set.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bike Chat Forums Index -> General Bike Chat All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Read the Terms of Use! - Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group
 

Debug Mode: ON - Server: birks (www) - Page Generation Time: 0.06 Sec - Server Load: 0.91 - MySQL Queries: 13 - Page Size: 93.09 Kb