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PostPosted: 17:05 - 03 Oct 2006    Post subject: ASSISTANCE REQUIRED - NORTH HAMPTON - BREAKDOWN Reply with quote
Dodsi's zx6r has broken down on the M1, after Junction 16.

Is there anyone here that lives in that area that could hold the bike for a few days? Or even possibly rent a van and pick him up?

Can anyone offer up some help here? Dodsi has gone out of the way to help me and many others on this forum (delivering andy c's bike 300 miles for free) and I would appreciate it if someone could assist here. No doubt Tom will cover the cost of any van/petrol fees.

If anyone can assist, pm me and I will give you Dodsi's phone number.

FYI - His chain snapped but looks to have caused 0 damage to engine that he can see.
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 03 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
He's not rung me?? Where abouts is junc 16... and I TOLD him to change that chain ages ago as having a split link chain on a 600 sports would only end in tears!!
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 03 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
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He's not rung me?? Where abouts is junc 16... and I TOLD him to change that chain ages ago as having a split link chain on a 600 sports would only end in tears!!


Split link? On a 600? Nutter!!. Laughing

Anyway thats besides the point, we can laugh at him later.

Can you pick him up? Razz

He now has my rac card details but I don't know if or what they will do for him. (pretending to be me)
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He now has my rac card details but I don't know if or what they will do for him. (pretending to be me)


they'll wonder how you got so far this time Razz
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 03 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just rung him and the main thing is he's ok!! Managed to stay upright despite the chain parting at "70mph" ( Wink ) so thankfully he's unhurt Thumbs Up

He's getting picked up and then heading off to his girlfriends house which is nearer to him than I am. He'll let me know if he needs any more help though.
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 03 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Would this be zx6r that is for sale?

Dodsi you moron.
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PostPosted: 23:56 - 03 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Just rung him and the main thing is he's ok!! Managed to stay upright despite the chain parting at "70mph" ( Wink ) so thankfully he's unhurt Thumbs Up

He's getting picked up and then heading off to his girlfriends house which is nearer to him than I am. He'll let me know if he needs any more help though.


you missed the 1 mate, 170 Wink , has anyone been down to see him ect ?
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PostPosted: 23:56 - 03 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Would this be zx6r that is for sale?

Dodsi you moron.


Shhh! Don't let everyone know !!!!!! Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 03 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
trevoriv wrote:
Would this be zx6r that is for sale?

Dodsi you moron.


Chain aside I can honestly say that if you are wanting a zx6r you won't find a cleaner looking example than Dodsi's bike. He changes the oil and filter every 2000 miles, covers the thing in fs365 and periodically takes off the fairings to clean the engine.

Oh and it's not common as muck green... what more could you want Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:00 - 04 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
extreme3d wrote:
trevoriv wrote:
Would this be zx6r that is for sale?

Dodsi you moron.


Chain aside I can honestly say that if you are wanting a zx6r you won't find a cleaner looking example than Dodsi's bike. He changes the oil and filter every 2000 miles, covers the thing in fs365 and periodically takes off the fairings to clean the engine.

Oh and it's not common as muck green... what more could you want Laughing


and he did have a book with every recipt stuck in with the date ect at the side of it so you know when things were bought Smile
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PostPosted: 02:48 - 04 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Its ok, I am safe and alive.

The bike is being stored in northampton and I am where I wanted to get too.

Phoning the people that picked me up yesterday and they are going to take the bike to get a new chain and sprockets and take it back to their home address for me.

No damage to the bike luckily I could see, not even smashed the hugger or anything and when it snapped it just disappeared I changed down all the gears to see if they were still there and got it into neutral and all seems well.

Just have to phone some garages around northampton later today and sort out fitting of new chain and sprockets.

Had a very lucky escape really but spending a few hours at the side of the M1 was not my idea of fun. Shocked

The highway patrol people did stop and were really friendly, took my mobile number and rang me later on to make sure I was ok etc. Top blokes! (aparantly they spotted me on camera and came to make sure I was ok)

And if you find a chain between junctions 16 and 15a on the M1, please return it Mr. Green Wink
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PostPosted: 02:51 - 04 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
instigator wrote:
He now has my rac card details but I don't know if or what they will do for him. (pretending to be me)


Phoning up and saying I was you was really funny, nearly gave my address instead of yours.

They knew I was really you because I put on a gay voice and said how much I like cock.

But seriously cheers guys, for helping me and jimmy for telling me a split link chain on a 600 sports was a recipie for disaster Wink (always when you just need to hear it)...found that out now Embarassed but that was fitted by a previous owner.
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PostPosted: 04:11 - 04 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bloody split links.
The one on my SV let go on Saturday.

Main thing is you're safe, and luckily no damage to the bike. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 04 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Chain aside I can honestly say that if you are wanting a zx6r you won't find a cleaner looking example than Dodsi's bike. He changes the oil and filter every 2000 miles, covers the thing in fs365 and periodically takes off the fairings to clean the engine.

Oh and it's not common as muck green... what more could you want Laughing

OK, but doesn't change his chain when it has a split link? Nice.
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PostPosted: 11:03 - 04 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Glad it turned out OK Thumbs Up

Out of interset, which chains have a split link? Ive just ordered an O RIng chain and sprocket set from Busters for my 6R. Should I be worried? Neutral
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 04 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
chris_biker wrote:
Glad it turned out OK Thumbs Up

Out of interset, which chains have a split link? Ive just ordered an O RIng chain and sprocket set from Busters for my 6R. Should I be worried? Neutral


No bike bigger than a 125 should have a split link, unless the manual states it should. Your 6R should have a continuous chain which means you will need a special tool to join the ends together, or get a garage to fit it for you. No_shad, your SV should also have a continuous chain.

Dodsi wrote:
But seriously cheers guys, for helping me and jimmy for telling me a split link chain on a 600 sports was a recipie for disaster (always when you just need to hear it)...found that out now but that was fitted by a previous owner.


Don't mince around with words trying to brush it all over. I'm not letting you live this one down Laughing I pointed the chain out to you when you first got the bike, you told me I was wrong and had more important things to spend your money on. That was well over 6 months ago now so you can't blame the previous owner either!

Somehow the words 'I told you so' spring to mind Laughing

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PostPosted: 12:14 - 04 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
dodsi wrote:
found that out now Embarassed but that was fitted by a previous owner.


But was it the split link that gave up?

All the best

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PostPosted: 12:37 - 04 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kickstart wrote:
dodsi wrote:
found that out now Embarassed but that was fitted by a previous owner.


But was it the split link that gave up?

All the best

Keith


That is true, we will probably never know either way. I would put some money on it though as Tom had a scottoiler fitted and kept the chain clean and well lubed.
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Hi

It is certainly possible, but in theory the load on the chain is along its length where the split link is not really relevant (there should be no load on the spring clip). Basically takes it down to the clip pinging off from being fitted wrongly or the side plate fitting badly, bending the pins and putting a load on the clip.

All the best

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PostPosted: 12:56 - 04 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
extreme3d wrote:
No bike bigger than a 125 should have a split link, unless the manual states it should.

Rolling Eyes

And why would that be sir?

I get realy tired of people moaning about split links, and how they shouldnt be used on "bigger bikes"... Rubbish.

If you look after your chain, keep it clean and flexible (like you should anyway), then there is no reason why your split link should fail. If it was put on correctly, then there should be no problem.

Ok i can understand they are probably not the best for 600cc MotoGP bikes, or big 1200 cruisers, but there is no reason (AFAIK) that they should not be fitted to bigger bikes...

I've been running my speedway bikes on split link chains with more than 1 split link in, maybe 2 or 3 split links in one chain to create a chain of the correct length for the ever changing rear sprockets and wheel position. These speedway bikes are pumping out nearly 70bhp and are 500cc singles running on methanol. Now if i can race one of these around a track, with 3 split links in the chain, then im sure that there is no reason a bigger road bike cannot cope with one.
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 04 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well the fact remains, that zx6's manual states quite clearly it should only have a continuous chain fitted. He kept the chain clean and well oiled (scottoiler) and kept the tension correct. So whilst that doesn't entirely rule out mechanical failure it does go some way to reducing the chances. As the chain was not fit for purpose I can see of no other reason why the chain could have failed than at the split link.
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All I know is:

I set off with a chain.

Then the chain came off, luckily it came straight off and did not wrap around anything. Shocked
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extreme3d wrote:
Well the fact remains, that zx6's manual states quite clearly it should only have a continuous chain fitted.


Never seen that in any manual to be honest.

extreme3d wrote:
As the chain was not fit for purpose I can see of no other reason why the chain could have failed than at the split link.


Because there are another 100 or so links subject to the same forces and not really any stronger. Chains can snap, and sometimes it will be the split link that snaps (or the rivit link). Putting loads of strain on them will not help (and a smaller front sprocket will put a load of extra strain on it).

All the best

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Lucky there at that speed Laughing could've ended up with a stump!
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Well I seem to have been proven wrong!
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