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Don't go near them unless you want to spend an innordinate amount of time fixing things and having a worthless machine at the end of it.
A CG125 type machine for £5-800 will only have lost £100 max if well looked after in three years. A Chinese bike will be as good as worthless.
They have shockingly poor electrics (no pun intended) and shed parts, nuts and bolts everywhere. A socket set in your backpack and a bagfull of spare bulbs and fuses is essential to keep the thing going, especially in winter. About the only thing they have going for them is a strong (though very low power) engine.
Chinese bike =  ____________________ I must not be a troll...
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my brother has the offroad 126, the gy125 with the updated upside down forks.
within a few month most of the paint has begun to fall off the frame, various bolts have snapped or fell out.
you cant really moan though for 700 quid on the road, engines are a cg125 copy, ive seen him top out at around 60mph, full tank of petrol lasts him a whole week  ____________________ Turbo R1
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i'v got a nock off SR125 made by a more reputable chinese company (kymco).
i have got to say it's done me incredibly well since i bought it in february. never had any problems with it mechanically.
i'v no plans to get rid of it as it's an awesome commuter.
if you're looking for something cheaper, go with kymco. ____________________ Sahf East Winnah 4LYF
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| Quote: | Anyone had any experience with any - they look alright for a nippy runabout |
I've often wondered on these aswell. My neighbour hired one for a couple of days, and tbh, it doesn't actually look that bad, especially for the money. What he hired was a 'sky jet 125' which are all over ebay, for about £850 brand new(bike he had was an 05 bike). He commented on how much better the brakes were than the bike he used on his CBT. The only bad comments are there are small rust spots cropping up on the frame, and also you really had to rag it to get anywhere....though its generally the same storey with most 125's..(the ragging part )
If it last a year or even better 2?? they must be worth it?? I was looking at the gy125 trail bike for £695 for the winter.. No MOT for 3 years...and maybe just check over the bolts, and threadlock them before using!????
...Trouble is I don't have the spare cash at the moment  ____________________ BMW R1200GS & Honda Fireblade 929RR
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Tell you what puzzles me.
If you build a bike from old bits, or radically alter one (ie chop it, streetfighter it, trike it etc) you have to get an SVA inspection right?
If you import a bike from outside the UK and it's an actual bike rather than a boxful of bits it has to be inspected before it can be registered.
So how come you can buy a bike from China which is delivered to you in a box, put it together yourself even if you are a total mechanical numpty, register it and ride it without any sort of inspection to test that it is roadworthy?
Himself is currently experiencing a lot of these things as his company has done a distribution deal with one of the big importers so if you buy a bike off them (the Internet Bike Shop I think they're called) and you live in the North West you will get it assembled, PDI'd, road-tested and delivered by their qualified staff.
I think it's too early to tell how well they will last in the long-term cos they've not been around long enough. Build quality seems to be OK but we've only ever seen new ones so ask again in 6 months time!
He says the biggest problem reported back to the seller is when people have done the self-assembly and not known that they really should drop and replace the oil prior to use so the engines are seizing. ____________________ Sod falling in love, I wanna fall in chocolate.  |
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Dont buy a lifan. There not a cheap run around in the long run whe your shelling out a fortune and crackiing up when you cant get parts for the dam thing. And the fact it will fall apart within the first 2 years is amazing! speaking from personal experiance here.
I am still looking for a headlight bulb no one has it  ____________________ All the breast.
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Have a look here.. https://www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk/VWPweb2000/lights-3/lights-3.html
The thing with chinese bikes is theres HUNDREDS of companys out theret, and allot exporting, some are teriffic, some are abismal to the point of being death traps!
Jenks off here has a chinese custom thing, basicly (as far as i can tell) a cb125 engine, theres been a fuel tank leak and a loose wire or two, other than that though its bloody good, a shit load better than my cg was for the money (disc brake, electric start e.t.c.) its two years old and time will tell..
Still its going to drive the horribly overinflated learner legal prices down pretty bloody hard, so it can only be a good thing  ____________________ >RidingSkills<->Tech Tips<->MyBikes< |
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Thanks Mr Z i think my bulb is in there and the price for it dosnt look to bad. Will have to take the bulb out and see if its the same. Thanks very much.karma for you  ____________________ All the breast.
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There korean
Actually there very good, some bikes i'd say were very much equal to the japanese bike standards
** And dont forget, japanese bikes were known as cheap and nasty poor quality rubbish... till honda came allong with a straight four and completely obliterated the bike industry as it was known ** ____________________ >RidingSkills<->Tech Tips<->MyBikes< |
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I'd forgotten about the disintegrating brake light switch. The original fell to pieces in about six months. The pattern switch from wemoto disintegrated in two months. The official Honda switch is still intact and working, 14 months later. The Japanese know what they are doing. The Chinese don't, they are just copying designs and slashing costs. ____________________ I must not be a troll...
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My ride for this winter is a Hartford VR125. A trailie bike with a very robust CG engine. I've had it since new back in Feb '04 and after being left sitting during the whole summer I did an oil change and fitted a new chain, the battery is dead but who cares, it has a kicker too. Comes to life after about 2 kicks and is good for 60-65mph which is quick enough to commute to work and back. Only problem I have with it is that it vibrates quite a bit but that doesn't put me off and spare and new parts are plentyful. ____________________ https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b255/viper_biker/rws.gif |
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Hi All
Well I've had a Chituma CTM125 now for just over 12 months, and I have to say that I can't fault it.
£500 in the crate, had to put the front wheel on etc, and then register it with the dvla. Have ridden it all year, in rain, sleet &snow. It's been covered in road salt. easily manages 70mph. It's not falling to pieces, and it's been really hammered in it's short life so far.
I did my cbt, then I bought the bike. Then from October to March last year I travelled 80 miles a day 5 days a week on it, just to get to and from work. Also during this time I used the bike to practice meergency stops etc, ready for me to take my A1 bike test. Again the bike was really hammered. Took my test on the bike, and passed !! then I got a Jinlun JL250 (Yes I was that impressed with the Chinese bike, I bought another Chinese bike). But the chituma is still going strong, It's also been a practice bike for both my girlfriend & brother, and was even the bike they used to take their cbt on, and noe with the ropey weather returning, it's coming into it's own again.(Save's getting my Jinlun & Honda VTX1300 wet & dirty).
I have built up quite a good list of alternative parts that wil fit my CTM125, should the importter stop stocking the original Chituma parts, and as a result psare parts are, easy & cheap to find, even a snapped clutch cable only kept it off the road for 24 hours !!.
The Jinlun JL250, another fine bike, runs perfectly, manages 80mph quite easily, and even manges 70mph 2's up with luggage on the motorway from Wolverhampton to London & back, again without skipping a beat.
So why the Honda VTX1300, simple, Jinlun don't do a big bike, although a 400 is on the way, to be honest the Jinlun is of a similar build quality to the Suzuki GZ125( My girlfriend has) and Honda VTX1300.
I think the biggest problem with the Chinese bikes is purely down to a form of Bikers snobbery, and lack of understanding !!.
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