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Jadc
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 10 Sep 2006    Post subject: Yamaha YBR125 ? Reply with quote

Hey guys

im gonna get the YAMAHA YBR125 https://www.panavto-yamaha.ru/?page=motodetail&id=895

sorry its not in english but thats the exact bike im getting hehe ....

its my first bike

n e views from you guys... ?
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 10 Sep 2006    Post subject: Re: Yamaha YBR125 ? Reply with quote

They are expensive and don't offer much over a ten year old Suzuki GS that costs about 1/4 the price and won't really lose any value.

Personally, I'd go for the GS.
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 10 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

A long link to the honda site

thats the bike i wanted when i went into the honda shop its goin for £1999

do you think i should bein so its my first bike ? or,,,,,?

i want an enduro style bike but i cant find many dealers selling new....or even online dealers n e idea's ?
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 10 Sep 2006    Post subject: Re: Yamaha YBR125 ? Reply with quote

I wouldn't buy a new bike as a first bike unless you are rich and have lots of money to spend.
Oh and don't mind running it in, riding it at half speed for ages.
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Jadc
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 10 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah kool

well the yamaha YBR125 i can get it for £1550 on road.... good ?
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PostPosted: 23:43 - 10 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jadc wrote:
ah kool

well the yamaha YBR125 i can get it for £1550 on road.... good ?


I believe the english market version is the YBS125 my brother has one for two months now was £1999 is a nice going bike no problems as its early days yet.
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PostPosted: 00:03 - 11 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

JpWard wrote:
Jadc wrote:
ah kool

well the yamaha YBR125 i can get it for £1550 on road.... good ?


I believe the english market version is the YBS125 my brother has one for two months now was £1999 is a nice going bike no problems as its early days yet.


Nope..it's the YBR, as I looked at one when I was starting up.
Basically, the YBR is ok as far as reliability and such goes, but when you come to sell it on (and you will) you'll lose a hell of a lot on top of depreciation simply because most people want to buy CGs. Thumbs Up

As has been said though..
DON'T BUY NEW!

You'll have lost £400 as soon as you step out of the showroom, and actually the benefits of buying new are wholly outweighed by the benefits of buying used.

You can buy an older CG for around £600.
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PostPosted: 00:56 - 11 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to plug but if you can get up to the Northwest I've got a CG going for £800...
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 11 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just got my own YBR

the 5 minute ride down the road to get it home was very favourable - it handles really smoothly and is sooo much nicer than the shop's Yamaha SV hire bike

I'll post again after going for a bit more of a ride round, but so far I've got nothing but praise for the thing.

as far as depreciation goes, I think I got a fairly good deal on my bike, and it was a birthday present anyway Razz But we got the good deal by getting it from a Yamaha dealership and getting some special season offers on it.

as for the CG, the only reason I didn't get one is because I live 5mins from a Yamaha dealership, and they're providing my training and all, and I've already saved a lot on discounts on training and bikehire because I'm getting my bike from them, so I'm a valued customer Very Happy

Basically, get what's convenient. I'll be around here most of the time I have my bike so it makes sense for me to get it from the local dealership, which happens to be a Yamaha one so I got a Yamaha.
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treesey200
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 11 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a YBR125 as my 1st bike. I thought it was a great starter bike as it handled well. I bought mine new and took a loss when I traded it in to buy my new bike. So if you can get a nice 2nd hand one with a few hundred miles on then I would go for that. Then again one of the main reasons I bought the bike in the first place was that yamaha were offering insurance for £99 - a bargin when u first start out riding.
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PostPosted: 04:39 - 12 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been riding a YBR for the last 3 months, and the experience has been superb. For a 125 it's quite a large bike, and I've been stopped twice in the street by people who want to know "is that a 125?" - they were confused by the fairly large/heavy look of the bike and the fact I have L plates on! I did a lot of research into the YBR before I got it, and as far as I'm concerned it's way superior to the Honda CG (in terms of classiness / looks / features) which retails at the same price new. Had no problems with it yet - apart from envious looks Wink. Of course, they depreciate like hell if you buy new, so get one with a few hundred miles on the clock and get a third off the price! Mine had 500 miles on the clock and cost me £1400 in mint condition. Mind you, the one you've got there looks like an import of some kind - so I couldn't speak for that. Anyhow, YBR is a nice choice for the discerning new rider! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 03:18 - 23 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got myself a YBR aswell, its a great bike, quite nippy for a little 125,

i bought mine brand new due to the deal on insurance and RAC cover that i got with it,

i had looked at a second hand one with 900miles on the clock for £1800, or (as i did) get it brand new for £2000, and get free insurance (£200 to upgrade to tpft) and a years free RAC cover.
you also get a "yamcheque" which withing 2 years time can be used to get £500 of any new yamaha of a higher spec than the ybr.

its a great bike and is very fuel efficient as just got 190 miles to the tank which was about £9 to fill with premium unleaded.
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PostPosted: 08:40 - 23 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got my YBR125 yesterday! Very nice bike.
But just so you know, it doesnt have a side stand.

Also, ive dropped it already Embarassed at least its out the way.
Was a bugger as I think i flooded the engine
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PostPosted: 10:28 - 23 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattwesti83 wrote:
Got my YBR125 yesterday! Very nice bike.
But just so you know, it doesnt have a side stand.

Also, ive dropped it already Embarassed at least its out the way.
Was a bugger as I think i flooded the engine


There you see the problem with getting a new bike to begin with.
Dropping it is almost an inevitable part of learning to ride, unless you're very careful. A 10 yr old battered and bruised CG125 can be dropped all day without significant damage or drop in value. A new bike is depreciating like a stone anyway, damage makes it scarily faster to drop in value.
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 23 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

look at suzuki ENs. look quite nice and reliable
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 23 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rawker wrote:
i got myself a YBR aswell, its a great bike, quite nippy for a little 125,

i bought mine brand new due to the deal on insurance and RAC cover that i got with it,

i had looked at a second hand one with 900miles on the clock for £1800, or (as i did) get it brand new for £2000, and get free insurance (£200 to upgrade to tpft) and a years free RAC cover.
you also get a "yamcheque" which withing 2 years time can be used to get £500 of any new yamaha of a higher spec than the ybr.

its a great bike and is very fuel efficient as just got 190 miles to the tank which was about £9 to fill with premium unleaded.



ditto but managed to get my insurance for £113 fully comp (the perks of being a lass)
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 23 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had a ybr for a year, very efficient and reliable, not the fastest of bikes but a very solid all rounder for year round use i did around 2,500 miles on it around london and it was great fun. £7 fills the tank and you get around 200 miles from it Thumbs Up

if it's a practical bike with reliability for a reasonable price, get one.
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PostPosted: 00:26 - 25 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i own a CG. done 4000 miles since may and have ridden my mates YBR on several occasions. i personnaly prefer the CG as i felt, dont know if this is actually true, that it was slightly higher off the ground and as such prefered it. whats the difference ber the badge!

Would agree that both are ideal learner/commute bikes.
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 04 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey all, new to the forums Cool

just bought my ybr125, sitting the cbt tomorrow! and 99 quid for insurance you cant do better. My dealership said over 8 months itll lose 600 quid in value, and thats if i keep it in good shape, but for a brand new bike which is respect, and insurance for 2100 quid, its not that bad a deal in my opinion. Now do we have a forum on how to derestrict it? Wink
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 05 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry mate, you cant de-restrict it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 05 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

the only problem I've found is that the gears have a tendency to misbehave whenever you miss a few gears changing down. I'm not sure whether it's a fault with this bike or whether it just needs to be ridden in, but sometimes it won't let me select neutral and other times it's already in neutral and won't let me select any other gear. Oh, and the neutral light occasionally lies Shocked

Other than that, I can still highly recommend it as a decent learner 125. The gear problems are probably just down to me riding like a complete noddy and I'm sure they'll iron themselves out. The bike's pretty big for a 125, but it's built quite low to the ground (which is ideal if you're a short-arse like me).

Having said all that, I've only done about 12 miles on it and I've been riding bikes for all of twelve days, so your milage may vary.
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 05 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

gears are sequential, mate - you can't miss em out.

but yeah, I know what you mean about getting in and out of neutral... more than once I've tried pulling away, thinking I was in 1st, only to find that I'm actually in neut.. Confused

probably it is just because we're a pair of n00bs.. I can't imagine a nice new bike having serious problems like that of its own.
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 05 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zafyr wrote:
gears are sequential, mate - you can't miss em out.


yeah, sorry. I mean when you shift down a couple without letting the clutch out Smile
It all seems to behave provided I let the clutch out every time I shift, but selecting first or neutral after a sudden stop seems to be a bit more of a hassle than it was at the training centre.

Zafyr wrote:

but yeah, I know what you mean about getting in and out of neutral... more than once I've tried pulling away, thinking I was in 1st, only to find that I'm actually in neut.. Confused

probably it is just because we're a pair of n00bs.. I can't imagine a nice new bike having serious problems like that of its own.


heh. Most likely
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 07 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

techierob wrote:
Zafyr wrote:
gears are sequential, mate - you can't miss em out.


yeah, sorry. I mean when you shift down a couple without letting the clutch out Smile
It all seems to behave provided I let the clutch out every time I shift, but selecting first or neutral after a sudden stop seems to be a bit more of a hassle than it was at the training centre.

Zafyr wrote:

but yeah, I know what you mean about getting in and out of neutral... more than once I've tried pulling away, thinking I was in 1st, only to find that I'm actually in neut.. Confused

probably it is just because we're a pair of n00bs.. I can't imagine a nice new bike having serious problems like that of its own.


heh. Most likely


if i can make a suggestion about not finding neutral and feeling like a bell-end at the lights with untold cars beeping at you from behind Mad .

ahh yes i remember it well, it can be cured.

i'm guessing your pulling the clutch lever all the way back to the handle?

that's what i used to do and most times it would work but i asked my instructor why it didn't always work.

the answer is not to pull the lever all the way back, just pull it slightly past the biting point and when selecting 1st the bike will judder slightly, this is a good way of identifying engagement,

it also is a surefire way of getting 1st gear every time on the ybr125.

Hope that helps and reduces further embarrassing moments.

Good luck Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 08 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

phatstorage wrote:

the answer is not to pull the lever all the way back, just pull it slightly past the biting point and when selecting 1st the bike will judder slightly, this is a good way of identifying engagement,


cheers sir, that's sorted it out perfectly. I managed 20 miles yesterday without swearing at the gears once. Christ know how long that would have taken to figure out by myself Very Happy
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