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PostPosted: 13:17 - 14 Oct 2006    Post subject: Warranty question Reply with quote

I bought a new 2006 model Z750S 11 months ago, after passing my DAS test. I've been happy with it.

As it was approaching 12 months, I thought I had better ring the dealer to book a 12 month service, despite not having quite reached the 4000 mile service interval. The instruction book does (to me) suggest that a few things, like oil change, are carried out yearly despite mileage. The service manager was with a customer when I rang to book in, but I was called back shortly afterwards (so I wasn't just dealt with by a receptionist). When I tried to book the 12 month service I was told that it was unecessary - Kawasaki only operate a mileage-based service, not time-based, for my bike and I only needed to book in when I had done the mileage.

I don't want to have a problem with my bike another 6 months down the line and find that my warranty is buggered. Can anyone else with a newish Kawasaki, or someone from a dealer, confirm this?
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 14 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Does sound a bit strange. Most say to do the servicing based on age / mileage, whichever comes first.

If you want to avoid an argument just say you are visiting someone in Scotland which will involve a 1000 mile round trip.

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PostPosted: 14:38 - 14 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had mine done at the dealer on 600 mile which is the first service and I then said how much is the 1000 mile service but the woman looked puzzled and told me no see you in 4000 miles or 12 months which ever is sooner,but I said well the book say's next service is 1000 miles but she said no.So service is milage and or months which ever is sooner.
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 14 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

magpiemale wrote:
I had mine done at the dealer on 600 mile which is the first service and I then said how much is the 1000 mile service but the woman looked puzzled and told me no see you in 4000 miles or 12 months which ever is sooner,but I said well the book say's next service is 1000 miles but she said no.So service is milage and or months which ever is sooner.


It all seems a bit random!

I've just booked it in with a different dealer who says I do need to have it done at one year, despite only having done 3,000 miles. According to them the one year/4,000 mile service is just a brake serice and will only cost me £40 - though when I emailed a month ago they told me £160 for the first real service (not the 600 mile one).

Well, they're an offical dealer (but so was the first one) - anyway, as long as they stamp the service booklet so my warranty is OK, I'm happy.

I've also emailed Kawasaki directly to check what the first dealer told me. If they agree, I'll cancel the service at the other place.
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 14 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmahon wrote:
According to them the one year/4,000 mile service is just a brake serice and will only cost me £40 - though when I emailed a month ago they told me £160 for the first real service (not the 600 mile one).


I payed around £140 for the 4000 miles service on my Z1000, so if you're being charged £40 that sounds more like an oil change + labour. I'd go by what the log book says anyway, and I'm pretty sure it says xxxx miles or yy months, whichever is sooner. If they're a Kwak dealer, can you drop by with the log book and see what they say ?
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 15 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

being random is no good with a £5000 machine esp if it develops a problem later on,I aint rich or well off cant raid the piggy bank for another few grand.if it says in the log book this or that why do the mechanics say otherwise.
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 16 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I emailed Kawasaki. Just got a reply that has left me none the wiser:

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Further to your e-mail dated 14th October 2006.

We are able to confirm that there is no 12 month service stated for the Z750S motorcycle. If you have a copy of your owners manual please refer to the Periodic Maintenance Chart which will confirm when the service intervals are for your machine.

The service schedules are as follows.

1st 600miles
2nd 4000 miles
3rd 7500 miles
4th 12000 miles.

I hope this information will be of some assistance to you.


Here's a copy of the first page of the service schedule. I thought I would need the 4,000 mile service done after 4,000 miles or at the latest, at one year.

https://www.bikechatforums.com/files/serviceschedule.jpg

The dealer, and now Kawasaki are telling me that's not right and there is no one year service, only mileage based! I've emailed Kawasaki back and asked them to confirm that I do not need a service until 4,000 miles given the first column in the service schedule (and a black K means by a dealer). I'll have had the bike a year by the second week in November, but as I had the 600 mile service done at the end of December, I guess I've got until then to get it sorted, right?
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 16 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redd wrote:
dmahon wrote:
According to them the one year/4,000 mile service is just a brake serice and will only cost me £40 - though when I emailed a month ago they told me £160 for the first real service (not the 600 mile one).


I payed around £140 for the 4000 miles service on my Z1000, so if you're being charged £40 that sounds more like an oil change + labour.


The second Kwak dealer told me they just need to strip and refit the brakes. Looking at the periodic mainenance chart, brakes (fluid, hoses, pads, operation, light switch) are the only thing that is checked at every service - but not necessarily by a Kawasaki dealer. The rest of the stuff need only be done every second, third or even fourth service (i.e. at 8k, 12k or 16k intervals). There are, however, plenty of things that are also stated as should be done yearly by a dealer (like "K Fuel leak inspect" on the page included in my last post).
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 16 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've had it 11 months and still haven't reached 4000!


Does sound a bit wierd, you're paying for a warranty so you should have the peace of mind that its all running sweet. Give k-direct a call and have a chat.
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 16 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

vee wrote:
You've had it 11 months and still haven't reached 4000!


Does sound a bit wierd, you're paying for a warranty so you should have the peace of mind that its all running sweet. Give k-direct a call and have a chat.


Haven't even reached 3k yet Embarassed

I haven't bought the extra warranty yet - I have a few weeks yet to decide whether or not to bother. Still haven't decided whether or not I'm likely to sell it in another year's time to get something else. I'm already thinking about adding a taller screen and panniers in addition to a top box I already have (to stow winter riding gear) but then I may as well buy a tourer or an R1200GS that's built for that kind of thing anyway.
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 16 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why buy a tourer when doing under 3k a year?
I'm planning to sell before the mot in 2008 and upgrading before it completley depreciates, i will most likely get something similar in 750cc or a litre bike.
I will see when my warranty ends as i may not even go to kawasaki for the 4k service, i know it won't take me long to get there so depends what comes first.
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 26 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I asked them to be specific:

dmahon wrote:
Thank you very much for your prompt reply.

The service manual contains the Periodic Maintenance Chart you
mentioned, however the first column also contains a time period
for some checks - it says that certain things (check tyre
pressure, oil change, fuel pipe inspect, etc.) should be done
every 6 months, year or two years. I thought this may be
regardless of mileage A very small number of these things seem
to stipulate that they must be performed by a Kawasaki dealer,
as noted by the black "K" next to them.

Obviously, I am worried about my two year warranty becoming
void if I fail to follow Kawasaki's maintenance advice and that
is why I sent my original email query to you when the dealer
told me it was unnecessary to have a service at 12 months and I
should just wait until 4000 miles. Your email has not made me
any wiser as you quote the mileage but ignore the time period
mentioned in the chart you reference!

Once more, I would be grateful if:

1) you could confirm that I do not need to have a service until
4000 miles - even if that may mean that it is 18 months or so
since the previous (600 mile) service. If the dealer was wrong,
and I do need a service at 12 months, please let me know as
soon as possible so that I can arrange one.

2) Please also give me details regarding Kawasaki's K-Care
WarrantyPlus and information regarding how I can purchase it.


and they have!

kawasaki customer services wrote:
Dear Mr Mahon,

Please accept my apologies for the time it has taken to respond to your e-mail dated 23rd October 2006.

We are able to confirm that you do not need to have your machine serviced until it has reached the relevant service schedule which is specified in milage only. Therefore the next service schedule after 600miles would be at 4000miles.

Please be aware that items such as engine oil should however be replaced every year. Full details can be found within your owners manual

With regards to warranty plus. If you can supply us with a forwarding address I will be happy to send you a leaflet on the extended warranty which is available through your local Kawasaki dealer.

I hope this information will be of some assistance to you.

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PostPosted: 13:19 - 04 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for this post, I didn't understand the owners book either.

I put a post on a Z forum, but then googling I came straight back to bikechatforums, where i've been for ages.

Dohhh.
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 04 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not just go out for a few rides get it upto 4000 miles and then get it serviced.....
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Seems you are having a lot of trouble getting a straight answer. If you are that worried and do not want to put too many miles on, just tell the dealer to do the 4000 service whether or not they say it needs it.... As a customer you have the right to say if you want it doing...

Also with the sort of mileage you are doing is the extra warranty worth the money ??

I know what you ride is upto you, but perhaps you might be better off rethinking what type of bike you need for the sort of mileage you are doing.
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 04 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:


Also with the sort of mileage you are doing is the extra warranty worth the money ??



They are not worth the money if you do normal miles per year an modern bikes as most extended warranties cost more than anything you may need sorting.
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 04 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finglonga wrote:
They are not worth the money if you do normal miles per year an modern bikes as most extended warranties cost more than anything you may need sorting.


So true and then manage not to cover whatever breaks...
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 06 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
Also with the sort of mileage you are doing is the extra warranty worth the money ??

I know what you ride is upto you, but perhaps you might be better off rethinking what type of bike you need for the sort of mileage you are doing.


I decided it wasn't - although the Kawasaki extended warranty:

1) Didn't have the get out clauses that most after market warranties do

2) Was fairly cheap

The reason I didn't bother was because I decided it was likely I would sell the bike before (or just after) the end of the warranty and buy a new one, and I wouldn't get the value of the warranty back.

Not quite sure what you're talking about with the mileage - what sort of bike do I "need" to do 3000 miles (commuting in June-September) a year on then?
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