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davidimurray
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Hooligan Bikers Reply with quote

Apologises if these have been posted already - Brunstrom is mouthing off again about motorbikes

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/6066426.stm

and his blog where the video is

https://www.north-wales.police.uk/nwp/public/en/blogs/viewblog.asp?UID=1&CID=72

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TheDonUK
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok they were speeding and got cought doing it...

But i dident see any particularly dangerous riding there, the undertake when the car and boat/trailer were level was cheeky but not dangerous... It looked like they were making "good progress"

Sorry because there was white paint on the road it makes it dangerous, and all the school children around that duel carriage way adds to things... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that the worst riding they have on film ?

FFS I see worse motorway behaviour every week.
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davidimurray
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing I like is why were they undertaking in the first place - ooh perhaps it was because of all those cars sat for miles on end in lane 2!!!

Ok a couple of the passes between lanes are a bit iffy but wacky racers - come on - he is just using his position in authority to take out his personal vendetta on bikers.
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froggeh
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it should be pointed out to the guy that there were an alarming number of cars sitting in the wrong lane.
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where were all the coppers that could be out there pulling all the idiots driving in the wrong lane?

"Move LEFT unless overtaking" anyone?
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with all of the above.

I suspect we've all done similar maneuvres, but then so would pretty much every car driver if the average fiesta was 3ft wide, and capable of bike acceleration and speed.

Bikes make those capabilities available cheaply and easily.

They did it, most of us have done it, they got caught. Dickhead over in wales wants to make an example of them.

I would probably swear at them in my helmet if they undertook me on the hard shoulder doing 100mph. I tend to cruise at 90mph on the motorway, and I do occasionally weave through traffic like that at those kind of speeds.

That wasn't 'dangerous' in my opinion. He just wanted to make an example of them to prove /his/ point.

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PostPosted: 16:50 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seen it happen on the A5 going out of Betws-y-Coed, Ducati 988 in front, then me then about 7-10 of his mates. Solid white lines and he started overtaking pushing cars out of the way, then his mates came past doing the same...Twats!

Anyway as the trees cleared I noticed something in the corner of my eye. It was the Police helicopter filming me, I gave a polite wave (as you do) and he moved on to the next bike in front still riding like a Twat....he then went up the row of bikes. Filming from the side then dropin to the rear to get the reg No.

About 5 miles later I saw the helicopter "parked" in a feild with the group of bikes and not too happy riders with 3 coppers. As i approached I got a freindly nod by the police and waved on so I waved back and did. Mr. Green

Thing is they can't complain as they were riding like twats and got caught. Not unlike the Idiots in the film who had already had a tug that same day....Not very clever. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazdaman wrote:
He just wanted to make an example of them to prove /his/ point.

Gaz


Whats the point in using /....../ around a word, and especially in the context of that sentence?

Confused
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Gazdaman
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PostPosted: 16:55 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's italics for the lazy.

it emphasises the word.
And if you can't work it out, I'm saying it's /his/ point, not necessarily anyone elses.

Now let the grown ups talk.

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PostPosted: 17:00 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Motorcyclists today. Anyone who ventures onto the roads of the UK will be aware of the quite dreadful driving exhibited by so many motorcyclists - dangerous to the point of recklessness for their own lives and for those of other road users.

What a load of shit, I sent the 'North Wales Police' some nice comments.
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dischord wrote:
Motorcyclists today. Anyone who ventures onto the roads of the UK will be aware of the quite dreadful driving exhibited by so many motorcyclists - dangerous to the point of recklessness for their own lives and for those of other road users.

What a load of shit, I sent the 'North Wales Police' some nice comments.


Well if thats his views on us all, what about car drivers?

Talking on mobile phones, pleasuring themselfs, playing with their fucking Sat nav's. Im sorry but the majority of car drivers are alot worse than bikers.
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My feedback comments...

Quote:
"Motorcyclists today. Anyone who ventures onto the roads of the UK will be aware of the quite dreadful driving exhibited by so many motorcyclists - dangerous to the point of recklessness for their own lives and for those of other road users"

Could quite easily be....
"Cruisers today. Anyone who ventures onto the roads of the UK will be aware of the quite dreadful driving exhibited by so many small cars with body-kits and loud exhausts. - dangerous to the point of recklessness for their own lives and for those of other road users"

or even just...

"Drivers today. Anyone who ventures onto the roads of the UK will be aware of the quite dreadful driving exhibited by so many bad drivers - dangerous to the point of recklessness for their own lives and for those of other road users"

it's not just motorcyclists that exhibit dangerous, reckless and anti-social driving behaviour: just as many 'barryboy' drivers in often dangerously modified, and loud cars are equally as bad. Indeed, many people driving regular, unmodified cars are also terrible drivers.

When will the police target bad driving in general, which will involve education, and awareness as well as prosecution for mad driving, irrespective of the speeds involved.

These guys were idiots, and they were treated correctly.

Don't tar us all with the same brush.

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mrtEE
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazdaman wrote:
It's italics for the lazy.

it emphasises the word.
And if you can't work it out, I'm saying it's /his/ point, not necessarily anyone elses.

Now let the grown ups talk.

Gaz


Completely unnecessary. Who elses point would he be tyring to prove?

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PostPosted: 17:41 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there anyone who lives near this misunderstood old chap who could perhaps assist in the removal of all that sand from his vagina?
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i sent them a piece of my mind, as i failed to see any dangerous driving in that video.
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just sent him a response but dont know if i will hear anything from him, anyway here it is. go easy on me please Smile

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Stereotyping Bikers

You cannot simply stereotype motorcyclists because one or two idiots racing through the streets. Motorcyclists are more aware of the danger than most drivers, if we hit a car or come off in some way or another it is us that get hurt and us ‘bikers’ that can die. Statistics also show that the majority of motorcycle crashes are caused not by bad and inappropriate riding skills but by drivers not looking and not seeing bikers. I have only been a bike on the road for a month so far and I am appalled by the skill that some drivers show when out on the roads. It is the car drivers that don’t see us and don’t even bother to look that we have to watch out for. In the month I have been on the road since passing my test I’ve had two cars pull out of a junction straight in front of me without even looking, very close calls that if were not for my quick reactions and training would have ended up as another statistic.

I along with many other bike riders, ride very responsibly and safely as we know the dangers of riding, even more so during this time of year when the weather makes almost any defect in the road, drain cover and white line a death trap.

Some people just as with cars show total lack for rules and peoples safety and race etc, however the majority of the biking population are responsible riders. Most of which if they feel the 'need for speed' book days down the nearest race track rather than trying this on the road and putting their lives at risk.

Bikers accept the risks when they choose to buy a bike, and we are willing to accept the dangers out there for us. We choose to put our life at risk by biking and accept the possibility of drivers looking but not seeing. This does not make us bad people.

After all the responsible rider makes every effort towards maintaining his own safety (Right leathers, helmet, gloves and weather protection encase of the worst).
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great response Soulrider.
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW! they were going SOOOOOOO FAST"! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

only thing that was that risky to me was the undertaking, half the cars were sitting in the outside lane anyway.

god help them if they ever seen anyone making a stunt video.


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PostPosted: 18:59 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christ, that's the best they can do for 'hooligans'? Laughing

I wish I actually had any faith in the phrase 'Comments will be received by the author'.
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

perhaps someone could post this idiot some links to videos of chavs driving their laughable barryboy cars. there are plenty available on all the "krooze sitez"

but hey, car drivers never ever do anything wrong do they Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My response:

Dear sir,

Having read your comments and reviewed the video file, I wonder if you are spending as much time and effort in improving the skills and behaviour of the car driving community as you are the motorcyclists?
I ask this question as I noted a large proportion of vehicles in the video flagrantly flouting rule 116 of the Highway Code.
Whilst I cannot condone the behaviour of the 2 motorcyclists, irrespective of their speed they were being prevented from making progress in a legal fashion by the large number of vehicles sitting in the outside lane without good reason (contrary to rule 116). Surely you must realise that to address solely the transgressions of the motorcycling community, and to dismiss that of the car drivers, is tantamount to the kind of 'victimisation' that makes the motorcycling community react with the levels of 'hysteria' which you comment upon?
Please outline to me the efforts your force are making with regard to correcting this misbehaviour amongst all elements of the road using community. I am both a car driver and motorcycle rider and would be delighted to hear the steps you are taking towards correcting this lack of understanding of the basic 'rules of the road'.

Yours faithfully,

Andy Bryant.
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a rant at him when I read it at work. I pretty much said that he should be spending more money on catching real criminals than sending £1800 per hour helicopters after motorcyclists.
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 19 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

LMFAO

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They were followed onto the A470, where one of the riders did a ‘wheelie’ (lifting the front wheel off the ground)


oh boy


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