Turning left.

tonyp23 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Karma :

Hi,

New to the forum and have a question.
My instructor say's when turning left this is the procedure.

Look over left shoulder, signal if clear and move into position.

I was talking to another instructor today and he said this...

Look over right shoulder, then left shoulder then signal and move into position.

What is the correct way or are either ok?

Cheers everyone.

puremagic72 · Brolly Dolly Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Karma :

Mirror check, signal, lifesaver to left. Then move into position.

Thats it,

Baz.
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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

As I recall:

Check both mirrors.

Quick Headcheck right (glance over right shoulder).

Left indicator on.

Lifesaver left, immediately before you adjust road positioning to turn left.

Second Lifesaver left, immediately before you make the turn.

You ALWAYS do a lifesaver in the direction you are going to move just before you do it.

Dazbo666 · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Karma :

Drew · Banned Joined: 09 Aug 2006 Karma :

I was taught......

Mirror mirror left headcheck

indicator

left headcheck

move over towards kerb

Lifesaver

turn

cancel indicator

puremagic72 · Brolly Dolly Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Karma :

[quote]I don't remember the headcheck to the right when turning left...)[quote]
neither can i!!!!

Baz.
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tonyp23 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Karma :

Thanks everyone for the quick replies, going to do it without the right look.

Cheers Thumbs Up

cestrian · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Karma :

Exactly the same as Stinkwheel.

tonyp23 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Karma :

Rang the DSA today and was told the left observations only on a left turn are fine as you are moving to the left, so a right look isn't required.

Cheers

Rookie · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Karma :

Stink usually knows why you'd do something in a specific way... why would you shoulder check to the right when turning left? Confused

froggeh · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 Jul 2006 Karma :

I got told to do the right check also... Still look both ways whichever way I'm turning, obviously with the relevant lifesaver last. Never trust your mirrors, especially on a bike.

Torque05 · Nearly there... Joined: 18 Aug 2006 Karma :

hmm well i just passed and i got away with: left mirror, left check, signal, position.

Becomes second nature after a while!
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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

irving · Traffic Copper Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Karma :

Syx · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Karma :

The only thing I remember was MSPSL.

Mirrors - check both, and check your blind spots.
Signal - Put it on.
Positioning - Move to the left of the road (if turning left).
Speed - Prepare for the corner.
Lifesaver - Check your shoulder before you turn, it should be the LAST thing you do before you commit.

My instructor really hammered that home, and I came back with only 4 minors on the test (but we won't go into that).

tonyp23 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Karma :

The advisor from the DSA said either way is ok, non is better than the other. The examiner just wants to see you make observations especially the lifesavers and show that you are safe. Thumbs Up

element · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Karma :

life saver right, then left (mirror check for people who have them. I dont)
indicate
life saver right, then left
position
adjust speed
last life saver right then left (looking out for cyclists)
take the turning

thats my way anyway. I hardly used my mirrors when I was learning on my scoot as I didnt feel I could rely on them so I just replace mirror checks with life savers. I mean if your doing a mirror check then a blind spot check you might aswell have done a life saver and seen everything in one go.

smallpaul31 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 18 Oct 2006 Karma :

Am learning at the moment.

i am told that its....

mirrors
signal
left head check
position
lifesaver 1 bike lenght way from turn
turn

onetouchchewi · Derestricted Danger Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Karma :

What is a 'lifesaver'?

map · Mr Calendar Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Karma :

kawashima · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 May 2005 Karma :

onetouchchewi · Derestricted Danger Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Karma :

Fair enough...I suppose that makes sense Laughing

tonyp23 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Karma :

Passed my test yesterday doing the left look only thing and got a clean sheet.
What a great feeling to have it out of the way.

I asked the examiner about looking right first when turning left and he said it was a good thing to do that, but he could see me using my mirrors a lot before using my left lifesavers and that was fine.

I wish I could afford a bike now, but after spending £750 after a retest, I can't even afford a helmet.
It still feels great though.

Cheers Very Happy

element · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Karma :

ouch £750!!. dont worry mate, I wasted (well not quite wasted. I learned to ride with gears under supervison so it was helpful) £675 and I didnt get a licence at the end. 5 day DAS that was..

onto topic though..

I cant understand why people wouldnt do a quick check over the right. I never felt "safe" just checking the mirrors. Granted the chances of something even being in your blindspot is slim but ONE DAY something could hit you from your blindspot, like a car or even a bike thats accelerated to overtake and suddenly pulls back into the lane, for example and you would've even have the chance to react to the situation..

just my opinion and the way I ride since ive had to adjust to not having mirrors. It wasnt the way I was taught either but it makes me feel that bit safer Smile

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