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Andy C
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: If i want a bike for summer would you buy Christmas time?? Reply with quote

Ok, due to some good fortune my uni is give me a nice some of money (in the form a bursery) and this means i can get a bike and only use a bit of my saving (providing a dont touch then while at uni)

My question is, im looking at either a CBR400 or RVF400 and spend £1500 on it, i would like to have it insured and ride at christmas but my insurance is going to be higher due to now having a claim and would be a waste as nowhere are uni at all to park it safely as city centre

So, buy and store to till (providing i found a bargin as theirs always some Christmas time) or wait till Summer and not have to worry about storage (although i have a safe place for it in mind)

I know its a bit early to be thinking of christmas time already but im already thinking about it as really miss riding/tinkering
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd get yourself an RVF and spend all the time you can till the roads are unsalted once again tinkering with it and keeping it in good nick.

Hell you might as well have a strip, clean and buff up project on the go which wouldn't set you back an aweful lot. You would need to ride it occasionally i reckon though just to keep the engine in good working order and to make sure rust doesn't build up on the brake discs etc.

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PostPosted: 14:36 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea it would be good and i didnt really get to work on the Zed as i planned before i brought it. It would need a ride every now and then but no one in my family has a bike license and ill be a uni for long periods.

I have all the tools to strip it and make it very shiny which would be a nice time passer while im back from uni and then ride a nice bike summer
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

you wont get a nice rvf for 1500,a tatty one maybe but not a nice one.

cant comment on cbr prices as i have no experience...but they do go well from what i have seen.
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

dave1rs wrote:
you wont get a nice rvf for 1500,a tatty one maybe but not a nice one.


Yea i agree, this is a rough ballpark figure as i was close to buying a RVF few months ago but got a Z750.

The most i could spent is £2750 but im aiming to spend a lot less than this, esp as i want a 400

A CBR for £1500 isnt asking too much, i reacon winter i could get a nice example
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy C wrote:
yea it would be good and i didnt really get to work on the Zed as i planned before i brought it.


Too right! That day i came round what did we do? F**k all really Laughing

You say you've got all the tools to strip it thought mate but you also say you'd be at Uni for most of the time.

I figured it was going to be somewhere close by to your Uni meaning you could work on it at weekends etc. If it'll be kept at your parent's place i'm not sure there's much point is there?
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm doing exactly the same , getting an NC30 (not the 35 if only) , for about £1600 , sorning it , and LT storing it till March , then MOT it insure it then ride it with Jan->March time to fix anything wrong with it.

temptation is a horrible thing though...
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another vouch here for an NC30, get a good base model from £1250, restore or modify to your liking.
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

not sure whats best for you, but i'll tell you what happened with me

i decided to buy in winter (about november of last year) and although i originally intended not to use it much until the weather was good, I had to pop out in a rush. I used to keep my commuter hack bike and sportbike in the same back alley, so to get at the commuter hack wd have meant shifting the sports bike out, and then getting the commuter out, and then putting the sports bike back in, and then riding off on the commuter hack.

So as i was in a rush, even though the roads were slippy, i went out on the sportsbike. It was just an errand to the shops, and i ended up losing the front wheel under braking and a bit of turning due to rushing and not paying enough attention.

So if you do buy a nice bike in winter, either be very careful with it, or dont let yourself use it at all in slippy conditions.

Any savings i made by buying in winter, were wiped out by replacing damaged fairings, and oil pressure switch.
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

NC30, rvf is overpriced and doesnt appear to do the job any better Smile
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're not going to use it 'til next summer, don't buy until next summer IMO. Can get good bargins around x-mas time but will it still be so much of a bargin after 6 months sitting around gathering dust?

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I think if i leave it a few years so it isnt so fresh in everyones minds (including mine) and then go back to bikes. Im going to Bath uni next year (have to take a year out now) and after 3 years i do a year in industry and then im going to spend out at least £5k on a very nice bike Very Happy .

I also think its stupid to try and rush the recovery. I am fine to ride again now but if i was to come off i dont think i could go though what i have again.

That does sound quite sensible....
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah and might be good to avoid riding with people who ride fast until you find your feet again.
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:

Andy C wrote a while back wrote:
I think if i leave it a few years so it isnt so fresh in everyones minds (including mine) and then go back to bikes. Im going to Bath uni next year (have to take a year out now) and after 3 years i do a year in industry and then im going to spend out at least £5k on a very nice bike Very Happy .

I also think its stupid to try and rush the recovery. I am fine to ride again now but if i was to come off i dont think i could go though what i have again.

That does sound quite sensible....


Yea, firstly good find with the quote but i assued i would be digging into my savings and have no money by time i get to summer, but i have been lucky and going to have more money summer than i went away with (i swear its normally the other way around).

I can bear no bike at Bath as uni buses are good and frequent, back home they are terrible and take 2-3 times longer to anywhere which is just stupid and quite expensive. I know with all this money i have to get another bike, its going to be another 9months or not riding and 7months had been torture without one.

Colin1 wrote:
yeah and might be good to avoid riding with people who ride fast until you find your feet again.


I wont be attending rideouts for a fair amount of time and whatever bike i get will be restricted, its not worth risking as only have a year of 33bhp left so will only be 3months by time summer is here and think it be good to get me back into riding gently
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd suggest looking away from sportsbikes, for a bit at least. A 33bhp sports 400 might not be the most suitable bike for using as an alternative to the bus. Wink

Something less sporty will be easier on the insurance and also easier on the people you'd said you weren't going to ride bikes because of.
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

im still not able to ride after my minor off.
however i am definately going to be riding by next spring(one good arm and one gimpy one,both hands are fine)
so ive already fixed up the bandit6 i fell off and its now back to full road going trim with and mot and insurance ready for the day i have enough muscle in my shoulder to ride.
but as a treat for myself and also something to play with i bought myself an old dropped r1.
im currently spending time making that into a great bike(its a mess at the moment) so come summer i will have a plodder and a nice bike to make me smile.
one thing is if you buy in the winter make sure its well cheap.
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PostPosted: 03:06 - 23 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Considering you just had a bike and sold it without even riding it you need to make sure you're going to ride one if you buy one.

Otherwise you're just day dreaming and it's a waste of space.

This isn't a flame by the way. Andy knows exactly what I'm talking about.

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PostPosted: 05:17 - 23 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
Considering you just had a bike and sold it without even riding it you need to make sure you're going to ride one if you buy one.

Otherwise you're just day dreaming and it's a waste of space.


Yea i quite agree, however that also was to do with the last minute decision to go to uni, i brought the Zed thinking i could play around with it till Christmas then ride.

It was probably too soon to buy the Zed but i wasnt thinking very clearing and just really missed riding.
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 23 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
I'd suggest looking away from sportsbikes, for a bit at least. A 33bhp sports 400 might not be the most suitable bike for using as an alternative to the bus. Wink

Something less sporty will be easier on the insurance and also easier on the people you'd said you weren't going to ride bikes because of.


sounds like a smarter idea to me.
the style of bike affects how you're gunna ride it. so something like an bros400 you wouldn't ride the same as a cbr400.

anywho, if you're dead set on something like a cbr400 andy, i don't honestly think there's any point buying one now. maybe early(ish) next year.
the prices on them are generally static. you should easily be able to pick up a good one with decent miles for £1500.
decent with average miles shouldnt be any more than a grand.
www.400gb.co.uk always bikes going on there.
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 23 Oct 2006    Post subject: Re: If i want a bike for summer would you buy Christmas time Reply with quote

How come not a zxr 400? theyre just beautiful bikes Cool

Plus theyre cheap:)


Andy C wrote:
My question is, im looking at either a CBR400 or RVF400 and spend £1500 on it

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PostPosted: 13:35 - 23 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

craigs23 wrote:
Another vouch here for an NC30, get a good base model from £1250, restore or modify to your liking.


question is though what CAN go wrong with them?

I know they have an iffy rectifyer which you should replace with one which has a larger heat sink ,

I know it needs valves done every 4000-5000 miles,

what else?

thinking a priority mod is a NC35 rear wheel , those damned 18 inch tyres are soo rare and $$$$.
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 23 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about getting a 500?
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 23 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
craigs23 wrote:
Another vouch here for an NC30, get a good base model from £1250, restore or modify to your liking.


question is though what CAN go wrong with them?

I know they have an iffy rectifyer which you should replace with one which has a larger heat sink ,

I know it needs valves done every 4000-5000 miles,

what else?

thinking a priority mod is a NC35 rear wheel , those damned 18 inch tyres are soo rare and $$$$.


If the oils kept fresh and the bike's maintained, the only thing to go wrong is that dodgy Honda-standard rectifier.

And add 15,000 miles or so to your valve clearence check routine.

And the rear wheel isn't that much of an issue, unless you're going racing. Most H-rated (for 400s) tyres come in both 17 and 18 inch sizes.
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PostPosted: 08:14 - 24 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

craigs23 wrote:

If the oils kept fresh and the bike's maintained, the only thing to go wrong is that dodgy Honda-standard rectifier.

And add 15,000 miles or so to your valve clearence check routine.

And the rear wheel isn't that much of an issue, unless you're going racing. Most H-rated (for 400s) tyres come in both 17 and 18 inch sizes.


great I thought it was a harsh super sports and thus needed lots and lots of maintenance above the norm on my NTV (brakes oil , leccy etc) , the 17 inch rear is for touring though maurice says 18 inch rears for NC30s are rare on the continent.
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PostPosted: 10:51 - 24 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the same dilemma last year. Passed my DAS in November last and bought a Sportster 1200 with the intention of riding from Spring onwards. Trouble was I got too impatient and rode through the winter...whenever I got the chance. Spent ages cleaning and protecting the bike. I think the plus side was I got good experience of riding in poor conditions.

I managed to barter a bit of discount on a 2005 bike which I doubt would have been available on a 2006 ( virtually identical) model in the spring.

In summary ...... go for it. Life is too short Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 24 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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great I thought it was a harsh super sports and thus needed lots and lots of maintenance above the norm on my NTV (brakes oil , leccy etc) , the 17 inch rear is for touring though maurice says 18 inch rears for NC30s are rare on the continent.


It's a Honda, they tend not to break. The engine's practically bullet proof - Honda learnt a few things from the early 80s chocolate-cammed VF750, hence the swtich to gear driven cams. My first NC30 had 65k on the clock and still going strong.

As for 18 inch "touring" tyres, try Bridgestone bt45s, bt92s or Dunlop gpr80s.
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