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naxos
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 03 May 2005    Post subject: HONDA CG125 BIZARRE CHOKE??? :-( Reply with quote

Got me a tidy 1996 CG125 BR. Quite pleased with it,but......I simply cant figure out when the choke is on, or off??? And neither can my local mechanic! I always thought that if the choke lever on a bike was pushed down it was in the ON position. And flicked up, it was OFF. However,this bike starts fine,and ticks over well with the lever fully down........cruises well etc........but as soon as I flick the lever up,the engine dies! This makes me think that UP is actually CHOKE ON, and that lever fully DOWN is actually CHOKE OFF!!!???
Sounds bloody odd to me,but the bike runs very well with the lever fully down.........the big question is......is the choke on or off?? My Haynes manual, and the Honda handbook both say that the choke is on when pushed DOWN. Jeez! This is crackin me up! HELP!
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mchaggis
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 03 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is how it is on my Mum's CG125 BR-J, I'm almost 100% certain.
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 03 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

will it start with the choke in the up position?
is it using a lot of fuel?
tbh if it starts and runs fine in the down position and not using any extra fuel then i'd just put it on my check next time i see another one list.
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 03 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

In fact, I know that the lever horizontal pointing forwards is choke fully on, and the lever down is choke off, as my bike has the same carburettor and choke mechanism, just with a cable operating the lever rather having to manipulate the lever directly by hand.
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 03 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Naxos

I have a CG and posted almost the same Q a while back. I had read of others saying their CG wouldn't run without lots of choke so was surprised that mine doesnt need any at all and runs all the time with the lever down. Everytime I try to give it choke it dies.
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 03 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny enough i just happen to have a cg carb out at this very moment

Pushing the lever into the DOWN position allows the normal flow of air (so the choke is off)

Pushing the lever into the UP position restricts the air, giveing a higher ratio of petrol for easyer starting (so the choke is on)

My last cg would need slightly more or less choke depending on the weather, in summer or when warm it didn't need any, when cold it needed 2/3 clicks/just a bit past half way, any more, no start, any less, no start...

A new air filter and spark plug will make starting a little easyer, you'd be supprised the difference it can make...
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 04 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the honda carb has a choke that is actually a choke. I.e. not just a starting carb like most modern carbs have. In that case down is usually off, up is on.
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 06 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

My old CG was the same, I never had to touch the choke in nearly 2 years. My current bike is the same though, up is on.
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 06 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Many thanks for the info on CG "upside down" carbs! I paid a Honda guy £80 to sort out my strange carb............he re set my tappets and then put in the wrong kind of spark plug!!! Doh!! I should have asked you guys first! He didnt touch the carb! My mighty CG now flies like a bird........smooth as silk......after riding an Enfield Bullet for 13 years its great to have suspension!! Smile
cheers! ps I binned the L plates 14 Summers ago!
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PostPosted: 00:18 - 07 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you think the CG125 has good suspension, that Enfield must have been a hardtail! Shocked You'll be amazed at how much better larger bikes are than the humble CG. Having said that, the suspension on my 125 cruiser is hideously soft.
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simtrain
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 17 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erm..... I've just got a CG125 1998 reg (S) and the choke on it has three positions. when fully up the bike won't start, 1st click down is normal and all the way down is choke on (so I'm led to believe).

Has anyone else this type of choke??
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 17 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

simtrain wrote:
Erm..... I've just got a CG125 1998 reg (S) and the choke on it has three positions. when fully up the bike won't start, 1st click down is normal and all the way down is choke on (so I'm led to believe).

Has anyone else this type of choke??


Laughing mine is othe way round fully up to start bike then middle, then fully down once warmed up!! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 18 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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after riding an Enfield Bullet for 13 years its great to have suspension!!


Interesting, My Bullets suspension is very nice indeed. Its more comfortable than the Suzuki 125 I had. Think something was wrong with yours. Even with the standard Indian springs in the Enfield ride is not too bad, with the english fork/rear shock springs its like an armchair.
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 31 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rarely have to use the choke on my 2005 CG. I use it when it's been cold for a few days: choke on full with a little throttle for 10-20 secs, then throttle and choke off and idle for 30-40 secs before riding. Cannot ride with choke on - had it in the wrong position when I first got it (the buyer left it on) and needed huge revs to keep moving and then would cut out. Worked fine after I turned off the choke.
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 31 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rarely have to use the choke on my 2005 CG. I use it when it's been cold for a few days: choke on full with a little throttle for 10-20 secs, then throttle and choke off and idle for 30-40 secs before riding. Cannot ride with choke on - had it in the wrong position when I first got it (the buyer left it on) and needed huge revs to keep moving and then would cut out. Worked fine after I turned off the choke.
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 31 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

mchaggis wrote:
This is how it is on my Mum's CG125 BR-J, I'm almost 100% certain.


This is absolutely correct, i have the same engine and choke set-up. The diagram mchaggis has drawn is the easiest way to understand your problem
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PostPosted: 00:15 - 01 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

FULLY UP = Choke ON
MIDDLE POSITION = Choke HALF ON
FULLY DOWN = Choke OFF
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