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PostPosted: 17:48 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Bar muffs or heated grips? Reply with quote

was out last night for some pitch black B Road fun. Fingertips were beginning to throb. I thought about Oxford hot grips.

What are bar muffs like? will they actualy stop the wind chill. Other than that my hands were warm so I was thinking bar muffs would do the job.

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PostPosted: 17:51 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heated grips are lovely and dont look as gay as muffs, But I bet heated grips and muffs would be fantastic!
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bar muffs are good, keep your hands warm and dry. If you go too fast they can press down on your fingers but you can reduce this by adjusting the angle they sit at carefully. They also stop your gloves getting soaked, which heated grips don't do. Unfortunately they can be too bulky for some sportsbikes and foul the front fairing.

Heated grips are worthwhile, but the right grip is usually hotter than the left because it's fixed to a b=plastic tube which insulates it from the bar. The cheapy ones are ok-ish but the 3-position control ones can get bloody hot on max.

Someone told me the best heated grips he ever used were Harley Davidson ones, but they were pricey.
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

GearboxGeezer wrote:
Heated grips are lovely and dont look as gay as muffs


homosexual? thanks for the technical help. lol.

muffs can be removed at any time and put on other bikes. heated grips are forever on one bike. that's another point.


who cares what it looks like, I'm not riding to look good and care not what any shallow minded pillock on the street thinks when they see me, I ride to enjoy myself and be warm and safe.
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

With bar muffs you can use summer gloves rather than winter gauntlets.
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geri wrote:
With bar muffs you can use summer gloves rather than winter gauntlets.


I like the sound of that. I find the vibrations are worse through a thick padded glove.
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

muffs are great until you come off and your unprotected knuckles go tarmac-skating down the road.

Best to wear summer gloves just in case.
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PostPosted: 18:18 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Personally I prefer the idea of heated grips. However one thing to check (especially if you have small hands) is how large the grips make the bars feel.

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PostPosted: 18:57 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok. so far we have;

heated grips just warm yer palms - users reckon fingertips still get numb + your hands still get soaked.

bar muffs - look gay, big and bulky, can be a bit of a faff to get used to.

So - what about these;

Sticking a pair of Barkbuster VPS handguards (motocross) color coded to your bike with the adaptor kit for your bars. Very Happy

I like the look of these a lot, a dispatch rider on another forum reckons he used to fit similair motocross to his bikes all the time.

These DO NOT look gay.

https://www.barkbusters.net/images/BHG1_Large.jpg
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barkbusters are good. They don't keep you THAT warm but they do keep the windblast off. You can get bolt-on 'extender' things to increase the area blockin the wind.

A lot depends on which bike you are fitting them on. You might struggle to fit them on the bars on some bikes, they also stick out a bit so they can sometimes foul the bodywork at full lock.

That said, if you get ones like those shown in the picture, you'll never bend another lever.
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fitted heated grips last year, over the winter I added muffs to them. Great combination. Who cares what it looks like when you can still feel your hands when you get to work!
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i vote muffs. ive never tried heated grips, but i think they would heat your palm rather than protect the exposed bits of your hand from cold

with muffs, you still wear your motocycle gloves underneath

this may sound obvious, but someone above didnt seem to realise this
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

but his mention of an off (so his post isnt completely useless) just gave a me a thought - with your hands stuck in the muffs, if the bike goes down will you be able to get away from it easily enough or will you be mangled by the bike?
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

muffs have wide openings, so i doubt it wd be a problem
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Timmeh wrote:
muffs are great until you come off and your unprotected knuckles go tarmac-skating down the road.

Best to wear summer gloves just in case.


You can get winter gloves with carbon knuckle protection.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had heated grips for a year now. They were more than adequate by themselves for short commutes (less than 30min) at high speeds. My commute is now 1 hour every morning and then back at night. I've found the tips and backs of my fingers freezing while the palm stays warm, so I bought a pair of muffs on the way back from work yesterday. I needed to bodge a little to get them to fit on my bike, but they are now on, ready for my ride on monday. They look a bit silly, but I would probably get more kudos for braving the sub zero temperatures on a bike than not looking cool.
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got a BM GS with heated grips as standard, always use my summer gloves they are that good. They also have two settings which is a bonus.

The GS also has hand protectors which compliment the crips as they (as mentioned above) cut the wind chill right out.

I did try Muffs as well, but took them off as my hands were too hot!! Plus Iit feels almost like your hands are tied to the bars and you have to plan ahead to do the simplest thing like opening your visor. You have to remember to let go of grip, pull hand out of muff, open visor, push hand back into muff, grab grip. Instead of just ..... well ..... opening your visor. Sounds easy but try doing it quick if you need to.

Muffs can push your levers back the faster you go, so you may find your clutch slipping or your front brake being applied, when you don't want them to.

Simple cure is....to position them as you want them with ample clearance of levers. Take screw out of bar end weight, poke it through side off muff and tighten it up back into the end weight trapping the muff and stopping any movement.

Oh and dont position the open end upwards as if it rains it gets full of water, not nice. Wink
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have oxford wrap around grips, so I can transfer them from bike to bike, cost £20. Bluky to begin with but feel normal now. If I remove them (which I do when it rains to stop them getting wet) and for whatever reason set off without them attached the handle bars feel too spindly.

I was toying with the idea of muffs as well as the wrap around grips.

the oxford grips dont get as hot as my R&G ones which were the grip replacement ones.

I can't seem to keep heat in my hands whatever I try.

*edit* forgot to say, because the wrap arounds are that little bit bigger your fingers dont overlap and there is room for your entire plam, thump and fingers on the grip, better than the grip replacement ones in that respect...only downside I know of is that they absorb water if left out overnight so require 'pre'heating when the bike's warming up in the morn.


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PostPosted: 22:15 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all I have been thinking about heated Grips.
Have seen the Oxford ones and yesterday saw that Mortrax also did heated grips does anyone have any information on which heated grips are the best?

are they easy to fit?


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PostPosted: 22:20 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

treesey200 wrote:
Hi all I have been thinking about heated Grips.
Have seen the Oxford ones and yesterday saw that Mortrax also did heated grips does anyone have any information on which heated grips are the best?

are they easy to fit?


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my last set were wired into my head light so I couldn't leave them on and thus flatten my battery,
my current pair are on the battery, wiring gues under the tank and upto the yoke. Looks untidy and I have to remeber to turn them off to avoid killing the battery but was less hassle to fit.


The oxford ones retail for alot more than motrax and manufacturers own such as Honda and Harley are rediculously expensive.

My current and previous grips were both £20 from bike shows NEC/BMF. the oxford ones had a price tag of £64 on the box Neutral like hell I'd pay that!
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 01:40 - 05 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

question on heated grips

is it possible to have them just pushed on? i.e no glue

its just that id want to be able to remove them come summer, but i dont really fancy having them move about while riding if you HAVE to glue them.

and as far as taking old ones off is cutting nessicary? or will they just slide off too?

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PostPosted: 01:46 - 05 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

heated grips replace the grips, so if you dont want them on - ie heating ur hands, you dont turn them on.

I have the wrap arounds that come off.

I didn't initially glue mine on, but had to as soon as I had a play, if they're not glued on the grip just swirls around the throttle body.. so you're going no where no matter how hot ur hand is.
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PostPosted: 01:53 - 05 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple wrote:


The oxford ones retail for alot more than motrax and manufacturers own such as Honda and Harley are rediculously expensive.



Neither make heated grips, they are bought in from a supplier. I buy the Honda type ones from an after market supplier of genuine parts who buy direct from the manufacturer, £45.00 retail with the dial adjuster.

Oxfords are crap. Until you've had a set melt and smoke you won't believe how bad.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 05 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be interested in a set of those at £45, I think that cheapest I've seen them is in the £50's. I bought the wrap-around ones last year because I only wanted to use them for 2 days on someone else's bike. They are far from ideal though.
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