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Sephiroth
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: SV650S or R6? Reply with quote

Right, was thinking about what bike to get next.

Found I can get fully comp on a 2002 R6 for 800quid Laughing.

Current bike is a Bandit 400 and is falling to pieces (either that or will soon explode) so I plan on getting rid of it soon.

Money isn't an issue really, but I don't want to spend a years wages on a bike!

Alot of people on here Have SV's and was just wondering what people thought?

I'll have a search through the forum in a bit but I just want to see if it's worth getting an SV, or something else, or just getting an R6?


That was probably a nonsensical post but whatever Mr. Green.
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think u shd go for something in between, like a thundercat
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had to be awkward didn't you Colin? Wink

Thundercat insurance was expensive.

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PostPosted: 17:14 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well you've managed to pick 2 bikes at opposite ends of the spectrum. Laughing

I'd be inclined to agree with colin in saying go for something like a thunderpussy. Wink
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

thundercat is gonna be cheaper to insure than an r6
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, I had to be awkward too ya know Wink.


I'd get an R6 as it's quite a good quote for me compared to everything else!

A Bandit 12 only costed a bit more than that too.

Meh, so confused Sad
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

the people ive met with the sv650 all wished they had bought the sv1000
why not go for something more original a trx850 or something like that, every man and his dog has an r6 (nothing wrong with an r6, they go like stink and seem reasonably reliable)
just my opinion of course Mr. Green Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are only on a Bandit 400, I would not advise a Bandit 12 yet. Smile
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't particuarly want another Bandit for a while anyway Wink

But I see why you advise not to Razz
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

£600ish TPFT for a 2000 Thundercat.

What year 'cat do you reckon then?
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you have already had a bandit 4 i reckon you may get bored with the cat quite soon, get the r6 Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive had both an inline 4 600 sports (CBR) and an SV650s.

For a kick off the two are completely different to ride. The SV revs lower, pulls more lower down and has a lot of engine breaking. If your after doing ton-up speeds this isnt the sort of bike you will enjoy. The handling is ok but the suspension is basic and unadjustable. The engine sounds awesome with an aftermarket can and you will fall in love with the way it works through the gears. It can be jerky at low revs and a pain in the arse sometimes when trying to go slow around town. Having said that the riding position is comfortable (considering my bad back).

A 100bhp 600cc is a very different machine. It loves to rev and demands a hiding to get the best out of the engine - keeping the revs high is a must. The suspension is fully adjustable at both ends, which is handy if you dont happen to be a little jap guy. The top end power is a pleasure and you will be pushing licence losing/jail baiting speeds with relative ease, especially in comparison to a 400 bandit.

The R6 will have cost upwards of 5.5k brand new I would have imagined, my brand new K6 SVS cost me just over 4k. The build quality in my opinion is beter than suzuki used to muster but I have made the decision not to run it through winter for fear of it disintegrating. All the parts are budget (vaulue for the price but not comperable to more expensive bikes) but there some nice touches that you wouldnt expect.

If you are wanting a cheap all rounder then you would be happy with an SV, if you want to go blasting about then choose the R6. I would personally look further than the R6 for a 600cc, there are plenty to choose from!

On another note, to the sheep dipping generalisiers, I do not wish I had bought the 1000cc Wink
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy R6, sv's just dont do it for me but fwiw the pointy ones are a small improvement.
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

After owning a R6 & my current bike, i'd of chosen the Ninja 636. More power, & much cheaper.

What year was you thinking?
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam, the price difference is marginal between them, and the R6 is a lot more bike for the money. A lot more effort went into designing and developing the R6, and it has better suspension lighter this that and owt.
Thundercat is too old a design now.

If the insurance is similar for Sv and R6 then then I'd pick the yam Wink thats only if you want a bigger bike for performance though?
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There's always the TRX I keep telling everyone to buy as I want to see what their like Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the two people I know of, one being G, who have ridden many bike's including SV's theyve both said they were bland and predictable and not to bother.

Interestingly both seem to like TRX 850's. So have a look at those.

If your looking at bike's of around 100bhp and getting good incurance qoutes then perhaps a Bandit 12 may not seem such a bad idea, just ease into it getting used to the torque and the extra weight.

Perhaps consider something like a VTR Firestorm as well if that's within your price/insurance range?

Edit, having said that TRX's are a bit more expensive than I was expecting, they now seem to be owned by people who pamper them and look after them in the main. Not alot about compared to other bike's.
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies, all.

After having a think, I don't want to be doing license losing speeds as I see no need for it (unless the occasional blast Wink).

Seems an SV is like an entry level bike then?

Hmm..

I like the sound of V-twins (I saw one the other day while waiting for a bus and it sounded very nice Wink).

How much of a step up would an SV be compared to my 400?

I know the R6 would be a big gap, but would it be wise to buy an SV and ride that around for a while until insurance prices drop? Or should I just go out and get an R6 as the insurance prices aren't much different between them?


So many questions Razz
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before you make your mind up, do you want a ride of the ninja? If you promise not to crash it you can ride it Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Seems an SV is like an entry level bike then?

Surely your Bandit was your entry level bike to 'big' biking?

What sort of riding do you do, I wouldnt want to ride a full on sport's bike commuting personally, but there's a guy near me who is on his mint green (yes really) Ducati 748/996 every single day.

Your 400 must make around 50bhp, the SV make's 70-ish, I know there will be people who say they make them in a different way.

If I was to do the upgrade bike level thing I'd feel the SV was too small a jump for me personally going from a 50ish bhp bike.

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Or should I just go out and get an R6 as the insurance prices aren't much different between them?

Do whichever you'd prefer.
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ram_doom wrote:
Before you make your mind up, do you want a ride of the ninja? If you promise not to crash it you can ride it Laughing


You've promised me so many goes on all of your bikes Razz


You always end up destroying them Wink

That'd be cool, down gower or something where there's a big empty road where I can't hit someone.
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sod the Sv.
I like misc's idea get something like a 636.
You've ridden a starter bike so take that step up if thats what your looking to do.
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reuben wrote:
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Seems an SV is like an entry level bike then?

Surely your Bandit was your entry level bike to 'big' biking?

What sort of riding do you do, I wouldnt want to ride a full on sport's bike commuting personally, but there's a guy near me who is on his mint green (yes really) Ducati 748/996 every single day.

Your 400 must make around 50bhp, the SV make's 70-ish, I know there will be people who say they make them in a different way.

If I was to do the upgrade bike level thing I'd feel the SV was too small a jump for me personally going from a 50ish bhp bike.

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Or should I just go out and get an R6 as the insurance prices aren't much different between them?

Do whichever you'd prefer.



I ride everyday, I much prefer torque than blitzing around at 100+.

And a green Ducati? You gotta get a pic of that...
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I checked 636 insurance and it cost more than the bike would Wink
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And a green Ducati? You gotta get a pic of that...

Whilst riding the opposite way down a major London dual carriageway? Shocked Laughing

It's fairly similar to what I cal "Bianchi green", don't know the real name for it. It's actually a little darker than this.
https://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2002/tech/probikes/coast/bike.jpg


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PostPosted: 18:31 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah...


Well it's a challenge..
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