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5v3d3b0
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Would it be very dangerous to have petrol under the seat? Reply with quote

Lately i'm running out of petrol quite a lot more frequently than I should. Would it be really dangerous to have a 30cl water bottle of petrol under the seat? That would be my emergency-reserve petrol...
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

In the UK almost certainly illegal, not sure about where you are. However you would need a bottle that is tough enough not to break and would not leak when lying on its side. Plus does not melt over time with exposure to petrol. Not really advisable.

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PostPosted: 15:07 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fill up more often? Wink
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you must, use something like this :-

https://www.surplusandoutdoors.com/ishop/images/877/FUEL-BOTTLES.jpg

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PostPosted: 15:12 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok doesn't sound like a good idea. Thanks to all anyway for the info
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm really intrigued, why do keep running out of fuel in your bike? Is it either A: tricky to get fuel where you are, B: you are suffering from memory loss, C: you are one of those people who insist on running their tank down to the bare minimum before even thinking about topping it up? Thinking
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

when i used to have a scooter i used to always carry a fuel bottle like what shaggyda put up the tank was only 2litres and never had a fuel guage or a reserve and i found it invaluble. i used to carry it around in my back pack and it was always good when those pyromaniac urges took hold Very Happy just kidding Mr. Green Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont use a water bottle, use an engine oil bottle

but it is a better plan just to fill up your tank more frequently
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone with experience of the 5 litre fuel cans will know they tend to ballon if left in the heat - you are almost certainly going to get leakage from a container not specifically designed to hold petrol, especially after a few hundred miles of jiggling about under your seat.

I wouldn't do it bearing in mind if it does leak you'll potentially have an instantaneous fireball.
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely some of you must have rode home from work in the dark etc. just wanting to get home thinking you have plenty lef to get you home (and you always plan to get it the next day because your lazy) then you end up on reserve as you get home. Next morning you are abit concerned about how much you have on reserve before you set off to work?

Or if your like me and you work in the middle of nowhere, you forget that you only put a fiver in a few days earlier because thats all you have on you, you pull up to work and the light comes on. You knowyou have about 12-15 miles left at that point but the nearest garage is 12 miles away.

Or the best one was the Hornet, it had a light when you were hitting the reserve. One day the light came on just as there was about a gnats piss worth of fuel on the tank. Cue long walk!
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villers wrote:
Or if your like me and you work in the middle of nowhere, you forget that you only put a fiver in a few days earlier because thats all you have on you, you pull up to work and the light comes on. You knowyou have about 12-15 miles left at that point but the nearest garage is 12 miles away.

Or the best one was the Hornet, it had a light when you were hitting the reserve. One day the light came on just as there was about a gnats piss worth of fuel on the tank. Cue long walk!


Best not to rely on the light as a guage. Always use the trip meters as your guide. Simply zero it when you fill up and you will soon work out how far your bike can go to a tank.
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm really intrigued, why do keep running out of fuel in your bike? Is it either A: tricky to get fuel where you are, B: you are suffering from memory loss, C: you are one of those people who insist on running their tank down to the bare minimum before even thinking about topping it up?

Basically I don't have a fuel gauge, and my bike is pretty hard to pushstart, so when I'm in a hurry (always) I sometimes put it into reserve mode to avoid it stopping and having to push in the middle of traffic. I basically forget I had it on reserve, and bam!
Also the fact that I've messed around so much tuning it has confused me and I have the perception of a novice to the bike...[/quote]
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah but ive filled the tank on my old CBR expecting 120 miles and sometimes only getting 90 odd depending on the trip.
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use the trip meter, and find out how far I can go on a full tank. I also know I can go a fair distance (from work to home, then to fuel station) on reserve.

I only reset the trip meter if I fill the tank, Then if I look at the trip meter, and its at 200 something... It reminds me I haven't got too much fuel
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your better off just remembering to refill every so often.

However the fuel bottles linked in a previous post are are good alternative to carry in a backpack if needs be.

Could do with one myself for longer jorneys when I dont know where the next fuel station is.
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reppyboyo wrote:

However the fuel bottles linked in a previous post are are good alternative to carry in a backpack if needs be.


Thats even scarier than the idea of putting it under the seat. You come off the bike you will be covered in fuel.

Its a suicidal idea to carry extra fuel because you can't get the hang or be bothered to fill the bike up when you should, plus as far as i know its illegal.

I presume the OP is a scooter rider (its the sort of thing they would ask Shocked ).
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carrying one of the aliminum fuel bottles under the seat can be no worse than storing fuel in your tank?

It should be well protected under the seat, more so than the tank, just make sure you don't forget about it. Bad idea carrying one in a rucksack though.
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Re: Would it be very dangerous to have petrol under the seat Reply with quote

Svedebo wrote:
Lately i'm running out of petrol quite a lot more frequently than I should.

As in more frequently that you used to? Or compared to what the consumption should be?

In which case, have you checked for a leak in the petrol tank?
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PostPosted: 00:20 - 12 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ride a hornet 600(wank range) - I just reset the odometer when I refuel, and fill up before 100. simple.

But if you're gonna do it then remember not to set alight to any farts as you're riding...
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PostPosted: 00:23 - 12 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bike does 120 miles to reserve so i always fill up at 100 miles never ran out yet Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 00:38 - 12 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If switching to reserve isn't enough notice that you need to visit a petrol station, I wouldn't have thought an extra 30cl is going to make a difference to how often you run out of petrol. Wink
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 12 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the DR with the 9 litre tank reserve was 1.8 litres. You had literally 10-15 miles of fuel to get to a pump. Damn thing only did about 80 to a tank (including reserve) anyway Razz
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PostPosted: 11:04 - 12 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 25 lt tank and a little light that comes on when I have about 30 miles left in the tank.Thats the Varadero for you.
I also keep about 5 lts in a petrol can in the garage just incase I'm lazy one night on the way home and don't fill up. You just need to remember to fill up the petrol can too. But after the second or third time of running out of fuel most people would learn to fill up.
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 12 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't keep petrol for too long. The mix is changed a few times a year, and it "goes off". It'll be as useful as skunk piss - it'll smell bad, and it won't be good in your tank.

Why not just keep a dipstick under your seat? Pop it in your tank, and record the level...?

Work out your average economy, too. Have a week of absolutely thrashing and abusing the bike everywhere so you know the fuel will be at maximum consumption. At the start of the week, brim your tank. Right up. Reset your trip meter, then after a few days, go back to the station, brim it again, and record the ammount by which you've filled up. Work out your economy using the trip meter and fuel pump reading, and then work out your minimum range. Simple.

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PostPosted: 14:36 - 12 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jack_Cheese wrote:
Don't keep petrol for too long. The mix is changed a few times a year, and it "goes off".


I was going to bring up this very point..

There is this stuff "fuel stabiliser" should make the fuel keep longer, leave it in a bottle for a year and it will be totaly useless as was said (especially as it wont be diluted into good fuel)

Asda have drinking bottles looking remarkably like the ones above, i'd dare say there the same thing only cheeper..

Other hting to maention if its not been allready, only fill it 75% full MAX as it will expand, and if its go nowhere to go you have problems!
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