The amount of TAX you pay...

[st3v3]

i have to ask partly due to debating with my dad, but also a few comments on here, does the amount of road tax you pay give you certain entitlement to road amount and usage legally or morally?
e.g, does a 50cc moped have the right to use the part of road with the yellow/white line on and a car whichever part it wants?
all in accordance within rules of the highway code of course
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[Jack_Cheese]

We have more right - we can filter. the tax is lower because bikes are generally used less, and are lighter, so therefore contribute less to road wear. Having said that, a 30 mph crash between two cars will result in a quick hospital checkup followed by a sending home. A 30mph crash between a car and a bike can result in death and/ or serious injury, wasting more NHS money.

Anyhoo, we all have the same rights. Except horse riders, tractor drivers and cyclists of course...

Awaits abuse....

Jack
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Legally you have no more or less rights to the road for paying more / less VED.

Morally there may well be a case for more tax = more rights, but plenty would argue otherwise.

All the best

Keith
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[Itchy]

Its unclear in that bikes use all the width of the road and quite often I ride on the white lines
also a bike all things being legal is supposed to take up the same space as a car , ie 2-3 seconds
from the front with the vehicle behind @ 2-3 seconds per +10mph over 30, reality is different cus I
can fit between cars and in all the iffy spaces.

also there is the concept of pressure,

In that my bike may well weigh 250 kilos with me on the back , but you also have to consider that
my contact patch is less than a size 6 shoe ,

while a car may well weigh 5 times more say 1250 kilos , but ONE of his wheels has a greater contact
patch than both of mine , such that the pressure on the ground is somewhat less = poss ;ess wear

I remember when I replaced the tyres on MY Mazda 323 which my sister has more or less stolen from me
with a loose tyre in the wet , the mark the car tyre made was greater than the mark of both my bike tyres
on the NTV600 at the time.

just to complicate things further , only one of our wheels acts as a drive wheel, while cars it is two or
four.
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[Stiffler]

The highways have equal use by all vehicles, as long as not stated otherwise on the road ie: bus lanes, Maximum weight restrictions etc

The tax is a duty, and not subscription to use the road. You pay tax to allow your vehicle use of the road. A cyclist has every right to use the road but isn't taxed as the impact they have on the road is seem as minimal. It could be argued that the tax that person pays in VAT, and Income tax etc is enough.

I don't think that morality comes into it!
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[mikeoldcars]

because we ride Gods own vehicle were at the top of the tree

[i_am_tim]

nicely said
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[nrml76]

Amen to that.
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[Steve_k]

If the road tax collected was spent on the roads we would have the best roads in the world with no potholes overbanding etc just race track smooth tarmac

[SoND]

[Ichy]

[Rovman]

[phatstorage]

i have a loud horn, surely that gives me the right to do what i want oh and i have angry eyes when wearing a lid so yeah, all good

[ColdInsomnia]

I was on the understanding that tax class is based on the amount of emissions your vehicle gives out?

IE A larger engine will (generally) give out more harmful emissions than a smaller engine, hence they get taxed more to lower their appeal.

So... Looking at it that way, morally we have the high ground as we're protecting the environment
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[Jack_Cheese]

[st3v3]

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[Jack_Cheese]

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[Itchy]

[Vincey B]

Road tax, or Vehicle Excise Duty to give it its proper name is a tax on owning a vehicle and nothing to do with building or maintaining roads.

The governement doesnt see fit to tax people for owning a cycle or a horse as they are hardly luxery items.

Roads are the responsibility of the local authority, which is funded by council tax.

So, people who dont own a car or a bike still pay council tax so are in effect subsidising those who do use the road a lot for personal use. (as opposed to taking buses and just generally benifiting from the roads being there).

[Stiffler]