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| Whosthedaddy |
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 Posted: 20:28 - 15 Nov 2006 Post subject: Calling all 2 strokers |
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Yeah I'm a sucker for the old skool cool, and with the luck that I've had with bikes so far, I may regret even thinking of this but...
...What are old 2 strokers like for blasting about on a sunny day?
Seen a few on ebay, couple of quid more than I would really like to pay for a fun bike but getting pissed off with no bike
RGV
KR1
I know I said the next bike will be bigger, but something to throw around will do as an intrim bike  ____________________ Current : MSX 125 Past : CBR 900RR Monkeybike : c50 LAC : ZXR750 H2 : FZR600 : ZX7R P3 : YW100 : TRX850: Trophy 900 T309 : GSXR 600 L0: Monkeybike : XJ6S Whosthedaddy |
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i used to have an rgv 10 or so years ago, wicked bike, the best road bike any 15 year old could ever ride on the road (nz laws are cool )
the problem with 2strokes is running costs and maintanance.
the rgvs are a pain to work on and are so highly tuned that rebuilds are fairly frequent, why not look for an old skool 2smoke like the rd400 or kr250
or some other classic jappa 2stroke
id get one if you are mechanically apt or dont mind getting your hands dirty, the only things that are normally tricky are the powervalves in the newer ones  ____________________ the humans are dead
I kick arse for the lord
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| NSR Mick |
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Absolutly superb, my bike is a weekend toy and it's a 2smoke. 4 strokes just dont give you the same buzz by a long way.
It took me 12 years to finally take the plunge after 1st seeing an NSR250 in B&M Imports (now Fastline) and I havent regreted it one bit.
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my nsr125r is great fun, it accelerates well and responds when you want it too, up until about 70mph, anything more than that acceleration is slow.
Its a brilliant little bike, as long as you can deal with the engine exploding once every 30k miles or so (assuming you maintain it very well) ____________________ Past: 55 Sym Jet, 91 ZZR250, 03 NSR125R. Present: 97 ER-5.
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this is what i do in the summer......stick a stroker in a van and take it to the lakes....derbyshire....wales.....etc...etc...
https://homepage.ntlworld.com/gavin.prior/ashbourne05/rd201.jpg
thats me on the rgv in the middle........ my mate is on the 350lc in front of me and the 3xv tzr's come from all over, as do the 100+ other strokers that arent in that picture....
diesels?....pah! 
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Likewise, I was just looking at it and though hmm I havent seen any around. Cant be that many left in that scheme?
My bike was a beaut too, shame I had to sell her to make way for the Gixxer  ____________________ Suzuki GSX-R 750 K6. |
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ive got an rs125 (de-restricted) and its great fun
if funds allow when ive passed my test to have two bikes im definatley going to go for an rs250. if the rs125 is anything to go by then the 250 should be amazing  |
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I've got a 75 Rd350 as my main bike. Use it for going to Ashbourne once a year, and runs to Squires / local terrorism. Love it to bits, but it did need a few modern touches to make it really reliable. If you think say a 400 inline four is peaky and hard to ride then you need to ride my RD, great fun if you are in the mood and irritating if you are just trying to get somewhere or cruise on the motorway - it'll do the mundane things but it's about as much fun as ironing your bollocks! Not a huge fan of the more modern two strokes, all the fragility and then some without the simplicity.
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=99604
As of tonight the above problem is already fixed and the old bastard is clattering away again. RD's and LC's also have the advantage of cheap and available parts along with being a piece of piss to work on. The only real reliability problem on mine (other than the above random piston failure) was the battery undercharging and causing a weak spark (combination of old generator and modern halogen headlamp). ____________________ 18:54:48 Rob Fzs: jews don't give away stuff for free
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I like the KR1's but id never own one as the parts are almost impossible to find. Ive always wanted a rgv250 or a tzr250 tho. I will eventually own either one  ____________________ 04' DT125RE (run-a-bout) // 89' DT125R (rebuilt + supermoto conversion)
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I thought you was on about proper 2 smokes like the 750 kettle, sweet bike
Joe
P.s. does anyone on here own one? ____________________ Current Bikes 650 Honda Bros, VTR1000 Firestorm // Past Bikes: Sachs Madass 50/110cc - Bandit 400 - FZR750
(+ a XS650 in lots of pieces in my garage and other places...) |
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I'm on the look out for a TZR 3MA or project Aprilia RS250, possibly a RGV 250 or Honda NSR250 but most of them go for silly money due to their rarity.
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| Whosthedaddy wrote: | What are they like to ride? I imagine you have to work them a little harder than a 4 stroke, and need to keep the revs up to get the most out od the pint sized engine. |
like chalk and cheese mate. any fool can ride a diesel, but launching a late 250 2stroke properly is a delicate art. get it wrong and you'll bog it or end up on your arse. the getting it right bit is a very fine line between both, but when you do, its like nothing else. 4 strokes cant compare!
riding one through the gears is similar, the rgv makes most of its power between 10-11.5k, theres a bit from about 9, sod all below 7. stringing corners together and keeping it in the zone is heaven when you get it right, fustrating when you get it wrong and a pain in the arse when you're not in the mood.
| Whosthedaddy wrote: | What are they like for handling, being light are they a little flighty on the skinny tyres? |
not really any more flighty than modern 600cc bikes, but the light weight and skinny tires really work in their favour; turn, stop and hustle quicker than anything else.
if a late 250 stroker is a scalpel, a modern 600 four stroke is a blunt axe  ____________________ 1988 TZR125 : 1990 RD350YPVS/ RGV250 HYBRID : 1982 RD80LC : 1983 RD80LC : 1994 RGV250 : 1991 TZR125 / CR500R HYBRID : 1976 BENELLI 500 QUATTRO : 2006 TRIUMPH 675 |
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If you like two strokes, then great! Most people either like them or hate them however, there's little middle ground!
If your looking for a cheap to buy and run bike (2 stroke) for the winter, or until you have saved for another big bike, then i would possibly consider avoiding the majority of thrashed/crashed/worn out and bodged&tuned 250cc race reps and sportsbikes.
I can't help thinking that if you buy a cheap RGV etc, that it will make the FZR600 you had seem like very good VFM in comparison. The running and maintainece costs on such a bike, are not to be taken lightly or under estimated. I know of a guy who had a TDR250 for winter/ riding to work etc. He found out after a while that it was costing much more to run than his Blade, so he sold it and started using the Blade instead.
Are you possibly open to older or not so sought after sportsbike 2s strokes? If so then there may be some bargains to be had, but i very much doubt you would get a nice really useabe and reliable RGV for less than around £2200. A cheap one will be money pit or a big mistake depending on how much you have to spend on one?
The KR1S, isn't really as good overall as the RGV, and some parts are now out of stock and unobtainable new, so it could be alot of hassle if you need to do alot of work on one.
For a winter bike, it surely doesn't matter if its an RD250/GT250X7/RG250/TZR250, or anything really? An older bike thats been looked after and had a bit of money spend on it would be my choice any day over a 12yr old+ RGV250, thats on it's last legs and about to blow up spectaculary which they are famous for!
Im a 2 stroke fan, but i still like big four bangers too. I always want to own at least one 2 stroke bike at any particular time, but im not that fussy about what they are?
Currently iv'e got a kawasaki KMX200, and a CCM500 enduro bike with a Rotax 500 air cooled motor.
Im possibly after an AR125, KE175, or DT400MX as my next project bike though! |
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