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Lee
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 22 Jul 2003    Post subject: Bollocky bollocks! no g/box oil!!! Reply with quote

What a shite day i'm having! just thought i'd go check the 2smoke oil, chain tension, gearbox oil, etc etc on my NSR - and i cant see anything at all in the gearbox measurement window thing! (max/min level) Had the bike just over a week, and it had a service when i bought it (book was stamped). i bet the tossers forgot to put gearbox oil in. They will hear what i think about their servicing in the morning Evil or Very Mad

Is there any chance there will be damage to the gearbox? and do i just buy standard 10w 40 to fill it up with?

Thanks alot,
Lee
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 22 Jul 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your not checking it while its on its side stand are you?

The bike needs to be level, also if its fresh oil expect it to be clean so dont expect to be looking for black stuff.
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 22 Jul 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

make absolutely bloody sure there is none in there because you will look like a right tit going back to the place and giving him an earful then seeing him show you it has been put in.
NO, im not being patronizing but this DOES happen. the oil can look colourless and be almost invisible.
your best bet is to get your old man/mate to sit on the bike and keep it completely upright and straight while you have a proper eye up of the oil level, get him to swish the bike from side to side and clear the window of dirt aswell.
do all this just to make sure, you never know.
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 22 Jul 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

its standing up straight, i always stand it up straight to check petrol/2stroke oil etc as it can be a bit misleading......
just took this photo, im pretty sure its empty Sad
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 22 Jul 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Start the bike for a minute to warm it up.
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 22 Jul 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hex wrote:
Start the bike for a minute to warm it up.
I tend to find that if you run the engine all the oil disapears from the window
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PostPosted: 23:37 - 22 Jul 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danny wrote:
Hex wrote:
Start the bike for a minute to warm it up.
I tend to find that if you run the engine all the oil disapears from the window


Yes, that's because the oil is being pumped around Razz I think that Hex means run the engine for the oil to warm up, then switch the engine off, allow a few minutes for the oil to settle, then check again.

Try leaning the bike to the right for a bit, then see if the oil settles again when the bike is "straight".
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 22 Jul 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you had no gearbox oil you'd know about it, you'd develop a horrible metallic scraping noise, this happened when my TZR decided to dump nearly all it's gearbox oil on the way to college one morning. Oil is best checked on a cold engine as it's all run to the bottom, lean it to the right until it appears in the window just so you can see how much you're missing. It sounds more like they've underfilled it.
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PostPosted: 23:49 - 22 Jul 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cold oil is more viscous though, which could be misleading...
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PostPosted: 00:00 - 23 Jul 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

but viscosity bears no relation to volume Wink
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 23 Jul 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

i took my NSR to White Bros in darlington for its first service at 600Miles (now at 1010ish) when it came back, it was in shit state. Oily prints everywhere, brake fluid dripping from the front resevoir, front brakes 'squidgey' back brakes shite. half the amount of 2stroke oil i handed to them, no (NO) gear box oil, they had drained it to fill it up, and then not topped it back up. useless bunch o' wazzocks.

If/when you take it back let me know what they say about damage / wear / reasons for lack of oil.
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 24 Jul 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lee, did you happen to be in Mission today, while someone buying indicators?

You bought a bottle of Silkolene oil, IIRC, "without my help!", said the guy who kindly opened upstairs.

/me pets new Micro Oval indicators Razz
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 24 Jul 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

nope not today Sad although i might have to nip up there tomorrow and see if they feel like chopping my exhaust in half, filing the restrictor ring off and welding it back together Mr. Green Would try it myself but i've never welded anything, and would probably end up welding my head to the can or something lol Laughing and i cant find anywhere round here that will do it Sad

Speaking of indicators, which ones did you buy? and do they work without changing relays etc etc? I bought some mini motrax indicators to replace the standard nsr lamp posts and the bulbs are 23W, so they dont work and i cant find 10W bulbs in that shape anywhere Sad

If yours work ok, could you tell me the details? these huge indicators are annoying me so much Evil or Very Mad

Cheers! & hope to see you up mission soon Smile
Lee

BTW did mission give you a quote to repair the damage? or are you going to do it yourself?
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 24 Jul 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, wasn't you... just a stroke of luck, some guy with a black NSR (the one with NSR in red text on the side, which has been burning about Bletchley alot recently) was in there, buying gearbox oil.

Not put the flashers on yet, but I got the Motrax Micro Oval (Black/Amber), for £14.95 a pair, not too shabby, look good on a 'cat in carbon fibre/white Smile. Should look nice on my bike, hopefully. Either way, they're a LOT nicer then the standard bricks that are on there at the mo Wink.

Although I've just checked, and they seem to need the universal side thingy so they fit in the big hole... Not sure about the relay, I was hoping someone else knew Wink.

Damage... £500+ from Grafton Honda, and Mission are booked until the end of September, so the work will be done by me and Ryan, with the help of Zim's parts Smile.

And, yup, once its up I'll be around Mission a lot, looking for stuff for my bike Razz. If not, I'm pretty easy to spot.

EDIT: The "universal side thingy" is the Motrax Indy Spacer, they have some in Mission, as I saw 'em earlier Smile.
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 24 Jul 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh, bit of a coincidence about the gearbox oil Very Happy The indicators sound similar to the ones i bought, small carbon fibre colour, standard bolt fit at the sides. Take the cover off and have a look on the metal bit of the bulb, should say the voltage and wattage. If its not 10v 12w then its a bit of a pisser. i wrote something about it in this faq.
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Lee
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 24 Jul 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW, i'm 90% sure i'll be going up there tomorrow probably about 12 or 1ish. If you're there keep your eyes peeled for this bike (reg LK51 XYR)!
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 24 Jul 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be at work at the hospital then Razz.

Although I won't be working, I'll be eating my lunch.

Clean back of registration and L plate, bit bloody new Wink.
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 24 Jul 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does this belong to you Lee?
https://homepage.ntlworld.com/lee.heap/Crash/original.jpg

Oh dear! Laughing Laughing
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Lee
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 24 Jul 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Syfoon wrote:
Clean back of registration and L plate, bit bloody new

WD40 is a godsend Razz gets rid of chain grease like nobodys business Very Happy. Although my L plate appears to have been blown off in some wind Cool err, honest officer Razz

Rob wrote:
Does this belong to you Lee?
https://homepage.ntlworld.com/lee.heap/Crash/original.jpg

Oh dear! Laughing Laughing


It did, until about 18 months ago when some old bastard decided to drive into the back of me when i was parked in traffic. Car was written off. Bought the car when i was 17 and thought it would be good to do it up. Ahh i was young and stupid Smile
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