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Dalemac
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PostPosted: 01:20 - 22 Nov 2006    Post subject: Came off tonight.... Reply with quote

Hey all i can off tonight and after just 3 weeks and 2 days of having the bike. and to be honest, it really wasnt my fault. I will run it with you so you know what happened.


1. came to a set of lights, options are to go straight on or turn right. Decided to turn right and pulled up behind two cars.

2. lights went green, two cars and me pulled away, and went into the corner at about 15 miles per hour.

3. about 7 metres after the right turn there is a left turn into a shopping place, has a chippy, spar etc.

4. the first car decided at the last minute that he would turn left, didnt indicate, broke hard, which caused the car beind it to slam its brake on and skid.

5. Which left half me way throught the turn, two stopped cars and only a fer metres away from the car infront.

6. i had two options, get the bike upright and go straight into the back of the car infront, which would probably have sent me flying, or i could brake and put the bike onto its side, which i did.

7. looking back now im glad i put the bike down onto the ground, going into the back of the car would have cost me alot both health wise and insurance wise.


put the bike onto its side, about 120kg onto my right leg, which hurt! i got back on the bike, rode it home, then had my mum take me to the hospital for a checkup, i really was in alot of pain, but i think ive done well, got abit of soft tissue damage on my right hip, doc said it would take 2 weeks to heal, then got a few grazes but no real damage.

Im glad i wasnt going any fastewr or i wouldnt have had any time to think....



bike got off pretty light i think, damaged my front mud guard slightly but i think i can fill it in and make it look brand new.

damaged my cowl and speedo dials - all needs replacing i think.

scuffed my right indicator

Scuffed alot of the rim around my light. have seen some go on ebay so i will buy one asap.

scraped a 1cm squared patch off my beautiful chrome exhaust. Its underneath and you cant see it any way...


so pretty much minimal damage. both me and the bike could have been alot worse off if i went into the back of the car!

just glad someone wasnt behind me otherwise i could have been run over.......


here are a few pics f the bike. they are in the dark and i will try and get some more tomorrow. if anyone has any ideas about how i can repair the damage i would love to know.


Thanks for readin all.

Dale.
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PostPosted: 01:28 - 22 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey mate.

Sorry to hear about the off, glad you're ok.

Personally I would avoid replacing the clocks, can you try polishing it out with some wet and dry?

What do you think you could've done to avoid the accident?
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PostPosted: 01:33 - 22 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah im gonna try to polish out the mud guard and the exhaust, but the cowl needs replacing, its bent to the right and it makes it hard to put the ignition key in.

to avoid the accident? to be honest i dont think there was a great deal i could do. it was either the road or the car. simple choice to me.

thanks for the reply dude.
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PostPosted: 01:37 - 22 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, good on ya for making what sounds like a very wise decision.

If theres not enough time to break then theres just not enough time!

Glad your alright, broke my leg just a month ago from my bike falling on it in a smash.

Take it easy

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PostPosted: 01:40 - 22 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah. the thing that annoyed me was the first car - he just drove off, leaving me in the middle of the road. nice and considerate for you hey. didnt get any details, no numberplates or anything. he was gone by the time i had got up. b*stard
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PostPosted: 01:42 - 22 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ouch soulds like a bad crash, didnt break anything just got loads of bruising around my hip. my leg took most of the damage.....im glad i drink milk Very Happy

i really think i was lucky this time. dont know how lucky i will be in the future tho.


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PostPosted: 01:48 - 22 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dale_Mckeown wrote:
to avoid the accident? to be honest i dont think there was a great deal i could do. it was either the road or the car. simple choice to me.


You had an accident - learn from it. Even if it's not your fault, there's usually something that you can do different next time that will help you avoid a repeat. OK, so the front car should have indicated in plenty of time (although 7 metres at 15mph doesn't give much time - a single second in fact). It's also hard to class someone as braking hard from 15mph to turn a corner - if braking hard at that speed I could come to a dead halt in less than a car length.

Personally, it sounds like the second car was too close to the car in front, and you were too close to the second car. So now you know what to do to avoid it next time. Glad you're OK though. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 01:55 - 22 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, yeah sort of. i had only just pulled away from the halt of the junction. i never get up car's arses, and there is bound to never be alot of space.

oh trust me i will learn from it. dont know what i could have done to avoid the situation all together tho.


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PostPosted: 02:02 - 22 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dale_Mckeown wrote:
well, yeah sort of. i had only just pulled away from the halt of the junction. i never get up car's arses, and there is bound to never be alot of space.

oh trust me i will learn from it. dont know what i could have done to avoid the situation all together tho.


Dale


Avoid cars like the fucking plague mate.

Always leave a GOOD following distance, 2 seconds MINIMUM (I generally leave about 4 seconds, but that's depending on traffic, I don't do much urban riding).

Avoid situations where cars control you. That means being next to a car on a dual carriageway for example, staggered slightly to the right as well, leave the same 2 second rule following distance in case they pull in front of you. And when you do overtake, even on duallies, don't mess about, get in front as fast and as safely as possible (I understand this is difficult on a YBR).

You will get a taste for realising when someone is going to fuck up.

Earlier today I was doing about 80 down a dual carriageway (On a simulated private road occifer) with a 3rd lane on the left that served as an exit road (Like a motorway junction) white van was in the exit road I was in the left hand lane of the dual carriageway (So to his right). Had a weird feeling that something was wrong so feathered the brakes and let off the throttle a little down to about 65MPH. The van swerves directly into my lane about 10 metres in front of me to overtake another car on the exit road (Fucking prick).

As I said you will develop a 6th sense for when something's not quite right, this can only be learnt with observation.

Don't expect people to indicate either, you can tell where someone's going before they indicate by their road positioning. Scan the far, middle and near sections of road in sequence (With a few mirror checks in between) and make sure you keep an eye on key dangers (In this case, the car in front) and you will find that your attention is drawn to it almost immediately when something is wrong.

I wouldn't worry about the damage too much mate, parts for bikes like these are cheap as chips, and it really makes sense to learn how to fix these problems for when you get onto the chunky cc's, I'm really glad I did loads of stuff on my CG (Even though I fucked up a lot, what I learnt was priceless)

For peace of mind you can always take it to a mech and have a safety check (Tell them you crashed it and want to see if it's safe to ride) and they should be more than happy to give it a good going over (Make sure you poll here first for a reputable guy first though)

Good luck fella

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PostPosted: 02:10 - 22 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

some good points there. im gonna try to sleep on the situation now. see how i fell about it in the morning.

really thanks for those points im gonna go and think about it now.

thanks dude
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PostPosted: 02:14 - 22 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:


For peace of mind you can always take it to a mech and have a safety check (Tell them you crashed it and want to see if it's safe to ride) and they should be more than happy to give it a good going over (Make sure you poll here first for a reputable guy first though.

T


Gonna ring my yammy dealer and ask them their opinion. they will prolly want me to take it down which i wouldnt mind doing.

Yeah if i did have anythin done i would get the yammy dealer to order the part, i would pick it up and then install it myself.

gonna replace the headlight ring myself for sure - looks piss easy.


Anyway thanks toby and everyone you have all been a help.


Night
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 22 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
you can tell where someone's going before they indicate by their road positioning.


Not in my experience. I couldn't begin to count the number of times I've seen cars veer well over to the left before turning right (usually without indicating) off a main road.
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 22 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear about your fall. Glad you aint that badly hurt!


A "MATE" crashed my YBR few months back (nice of him Evil or Very Mad ) -- at around 15mph, but he hit the kurb after going over leaves! Rolling Eyes Crying or Very sad

Did abit of fork damage (sorted with help of a couple friends), handlebars, mudguard, and finally the footpeg got bent slightly!

I had damage to the front area like yours (headlight stratches, etc.) the clock casing only needed replacing (pretty cheap), I think the most expensive part was the mudguard (so in end i didn't replace it)


I bet the 2 metal 'catches' that hold the speedo / rev counter are slightly bent out, that an easy job to get em straight.

Rolling Eyes I still have the bent handle bars Embarassed ( Question is that dangerous???) They aint that badly out (bout 2cm) Exclamation

You can tell tho. as when i ride at night in a straight line the headlight is always pointing to the left (a couple feet out) Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 00:47 - 23 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alway have an escape route.
Sod's law says when you get suckered into not having one that's when the unexpected happens.
Good luck and I hope the bruises aren't too painful.
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PostPosted: 00:55 - 23 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah i need to get the casing off and take a look, i think the catches will need to be bent back into position, then refit the spedo and rv counter etc, then the cowling will need replacing, bout 7 quit for that job. £20 for the light rim but ive seen them cheaper on ebay.

how much was the mud guard to replace?

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PostPosted: 01:30 - 23 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was pricy, In end i just got black plumers tape and made it look 'neat'

I saw one on Ebay for 20 quid, but at the time decided that it looked fine with tape on it!

But i think the mudguard from a dealer was over £30 I remember them being over the top on the price
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 23 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok dude thanks.

Just wondering as it may be a good idea to buy one for when i sell the bike.

Thanks mate

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PostPosted: 22:46 - 23 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait till it gets nearer to the time of selling the bike... You COULD (hopefully not) come off again and do same again.


Get a new one by all means but i wouyld be careful it might mean you could end up with a second mudguard broke in a couple months!
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PostPosted: 02:07 - 24 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

hope you're ok matey.

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PostPosted: 13:38 - 25 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah thats the plan mate. if i can but it with my xms money or summat, then replace it when i come to selling it, it will be worth it.


i fear that if i leave it, yam might not have the parts for it, like my clock casing - its gonna be 2 weeks before i get it replaced Sad

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PostPosted: 16:04 - 25 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey all

just went into my local yam dealer so they could have a good look over the bike. it seems more damage has been done than meets the eye. the whole cockpit needs replacing, as the actual bracket that holds the spedo etc in place is bent. also the actual screws to remove the cockpit cowling have broken, as they are held to the spedo with just a crappy piece of thermoset plastic. great.

Gonna cost £133 for a complete new cockpit, free labour or £97 plus labour.

me mum gave me a tenner and told me to go and buy some superglue. bitch. if only she understood!

think im gonna put the tenner to a new cockpit Razz

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My late Father taught me to treat every other road user as an idiot. It has kept me alive (if a little damaged) to the age of 50 and with 36 years of riding under my belt. You will learn Grasshopper but bones will break on the way.
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And do not be rude about your Mom, Bikers put their Moms through hell. Wait untill she sees you in traction and tears and then call her a bitch, she did not give birth so you can break your bones.
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 13 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok. i take that bak about my mum. sorry mum Sad
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 14 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just so you know, theres a technique to putting the bike on the side and remaining safe lol.

You should try and stand on the pegs and just before the point to where it touches the ground you can project your self away from it keeping your legs safe, may end up with a bruised leg or something but not gonna hurt half as bad as a bike landing on them plus no burns etc.

Sorry to hear about your bike.
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