Caught speeding, what next?

cestrian · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Karma :

Hi, I know this has been done to death but I did a very quick search and found nothing immediately relevant and just need a quick answer.

So I have been zapped doing 35 in a 30 zone by an Arrive Alive van. I was driving my wifes car at the time (licensed, insured taxed etc).
I have had my car license since the age of 17 but my full bike license only a few months. So what will happen next? I know I will probably get 3 points and a £60 fine, but what about retaking tests? How does it affect my license? Does it affect only my car entitlement or will it also affect my bike entitlement?

Thanks

Gordy

0ddball · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Karma :

It affects both, they are the same licence.

You pay the £60, take the 3 points, and carry on with life.

Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

As above, but the 2 year / 6 point limit applies from when you first got a licence, so you are safe with that.

All the best

Keith
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Phil_G · Traffic Copper Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Karma :

cestrian · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Karma :

Thanks for the replies.

SpannerMonkey, as per my initial post, I know about the points and the fine (less than a hours pay) and neither of them are an inconvenience. Getting on with life is what I do second-best.

Keith, cheers. So no stupid training days or extra motorbike tests.

Phil, the Arrive Alive van was in Old Colwyn, on the hill towards the old Colwyn Bay Hotel (70 Degrees as it used to be).

Thanks all. I was wondering if I would have to do another bike test, as I only passed the DAS a few months ago. It seems not.

Thanks again.

Gordy

Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Have you had a ticket, or do you just think you have been zapped?

All the best

Keith
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Phil_G · Traffic Copper Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Karma :

cestrian · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Karma :

Keith, we got the documentation through this morning.

Phil, it looks like you live near Holywell according to the map. If you fancy a ride out, just let us know.

Gordy

KTM Gordo · Brolly Dolly Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Karma :

riffmasher · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Karma :

Hi Gordy,
Try this website:

https://www.pepipoo.com/

Also have a look in last weeks MCN as it was decided that speed cameras have not been approved for use on motorcycles due to false readouts.

Send me a PM with your address if you don't have it and I will pop the page in the post mate.

I HATE scammera vans.

Gonna sit back now and wait for the backlash for this!!

Riff
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Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

Yep, go through Pepipoo. There are often ways round the tickets, just depends on how long you are prepared to push it and how much abuse you are prepared to put up with (not unknown for people who have given the details in a form not useful in court to get agressive police visits in the very early hours of the morning).

All the best

Keith
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Black Knight · World Chat Champion Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Karma :

Hi Gordy,
TBH unless a clean licence is needed for your work or something of importance, I'd just take the hit.

At that speed its £60 and a 3 points, nothing really. There are reports of people actually being in the sme licence situation as yourself and there insurance premium dropping as they only had 3 points to go, so were more likely to ride cautiously.

If you wanted to fight it, i'd reccomend Motor Defence Team as solicitors. Might be worth having a look at their website anyway, it has a few tips in such as multiple name registration do from now just in case you get another ticket in future.

Cheers

Rick.
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KTM Gordo · Brolly Dolly Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Karma :

bikerbanditz · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Karma :

Does the speedometer theory not apply here? Is it not 3% of the speed limit + 3mph to make up for the speedo being wrong?

Tom
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Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

bikerbanditz · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Karma :

Right,
Thanks Kickstart

Tom
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cestrian · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Karma :

Wow this has gone a bit too far methinks.

3 points and a £60 fine is no big deal. I was only asking if there was some stupid assed rule that was gonna piss me off.

I already know that if his machine said 35mph, then my wifes speedo would have been telling me approximately 38mph. I know the speedo reads too fast as my satnav reads 70mph when my wifes Hyundai speedo reads 75mph and the Renault speedo reads 72mph.

The important thing is that I wont have to attend a class to teach me about speeding or wont have to pass another test.

Thanks

Gordy

riffmasher · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Karma :

KTM Gordo wrote:
Two points:
1. Gordy was in his wife's car:

Doh! must read the first post properly, but it still begs the question. MCN pointed out that the cameras were picking up reflections off fairings and giving erroneous readings, if one were to keep ones car well polished surely there must be a larger surface area for reflection and therefore a greater chance of a false reading! Just my thoughts.

KTM Gordo also wrote:
2. (the expected backlash Wink) if you were speeding, then take it on the chin. We all know the law even if we don't agree with it. If you speed, you take the risk of getting caught - Gordy got caught, and should take the punishment like a man, not try to wriggle out of it which only a bounder and a cad would try to do.

Belive it or not I do agree with you and seem to spend my life taking it on the chin continually with three points on my licence! However, the last five times my wife and I have been caught has been by a scamera van on a dual carriageway where we were around 10mph over the limit. But we have lived in a small village for six years now and not once have we seen one here where they will do something for road safety. Happy snapping on the hard shoulder increase revenue and does nothing for road safety. Like I said, I hate scamera vans and now will look for a (legal) way out if I can. If I get pulled by the boys in blue, well fair cop guv. I don't speed in towns only on NSL stretches where it is safe to do so. Same cant be said about the chavs in the village tho'.

Again standing back for the backlash!!

Riff
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KTM Gordo · Brolly Dolly Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Karma :

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riffmasher · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Karma :

Believe it or not, the last ticket was 56 in a 50 (dual carriageway) and the one before was 75 in a 70, both before I discovered pepipoo!

As for the village, there is usually a couple of shunts a month and the last one was a couple of chavs who forgot that the right foot is the brake as well as accelerator in a car and rolled it on a blind bend!

You are a lucky man KTM, and I still hate the scameras!

Riff
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Of the things in life I have lost, it is my mind I miss the most!
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