Hazard perception test

romperstomper... · Trackday Trickster Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Karma :

I purchased the dsa"official guide to hazard perception test DVD"
which is pretty crap really as it gives conflicting information !
It states that in the hazard perception test you get 14 clips with one developing hazard in each and the sooner you respond the higher the points ! Okay that's nice and clear....... Or so you think until you do the mock test.
In the mock test you have to click the mouse every time you see a bend in the road or a side road, mud on the road, or other such things !
If you click the mouse too much you don't get any points, so I'm a bit confused !
In the actual test do you only respond to vehicles or pedestrians potentially coming out in front of you or do you respond to every possible hazard like Bends in the road,mud by the curb , road signs etc !
If you've taken this test please enlighten me

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Will87 · Trackday Trickster Joined: 20 Jan 2005 Karma :

Click as soon as you see something that could be majour developing, also click for the slightly less important hazzards, good as it is can't help but feel the test is somewhat pot luck.

binge · Emo Kiddy Joined: 03 Jul 2004 Karma :

Im with you on that 1. Ive got the CD too. The thing is tho. Say theres going to be 10 hazards. It doesn't tell you how many hazards there was until afterwards. ANd yes, If you click to many times, You get a big fat zero! I personally think its shit!

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White Noise · Mr Dudwee Joined: 17 Dec 2004 Karma :

flip is right about not know how many hazards there is going to be on any given ride, but the shit thing about this test is that it punishes you for being to cautious! when you click too often the software makes up its mind that you are cheating and gives you no points!
you have to selective about which hazards that you click for and only click a couple of times! and how can you do this on the road! oh that car has seen me, he won't pull out! i'll ignore that! WTF not likely in real riding!
just my 2 cents
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cagiva gezzer · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Mar 2003 Karma :

There are hazards everywhere, but the only ones you get points for are the ones that develop into something. A car sat a a junction IS a hazard, but a car actually pulling out is a developing hazard and thats what you get points for.

Don't worry about it too much, the proper test has a lot better footage than the dvd and imo is easier.
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JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

I didn't buy the DSA one as it was too expensive. Instead today I bought The "Driving Test Success" Hazard Perception CDROM and I keep getting over 56 out of 75 on my mock ones, it is really good. Thumbs Up

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adazed · L Plate Warrior Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Karma :

its true you only get scored on developing hazards, but you must click for all hazards

the trick is to click every other second when you see a potential hazard

eg like pedestrians near the kerb - they may walk out in front of you
or a cyclist may swerve in front
or a car's brake lights light up - its going to brake just how hard???
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Adam_P · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Karma :

I got confused when I first got it as on the town centre DVD it showed you driving down a line of parked cars. I wanted to click every second or so as a child could simply run out from behind any one of the cars! Shocked

However! I found a good way of making sure I was doing the right thing. On the official disc you should be able to set the pass rate when you practise. My suggestion is to set it lower than the actual pass needed for the test. That way, you'll be err-ing on the side of caution and actually scoring properly. The DSA test video is easier to read what's coming anyway!

It doesn't say that you should click at EVERY road bend or side road or mud on the road. It's what are the perceived hazards that are developing that they're interested in. Let it show you through first, then have another go.

The other trick is to click as soon as you see it and then click again about a second or so later (and actually count the second, don't just click again straight away, or it thinks you're cheating!) that way you're still picking up points for seeing the hazard. They might come in handy at the end of the test.

And one clip will have TWO hazards in it. You really need to get this one as it's ten points for one clip. If you get that one wrong, you've got to pretty much get all the others to make sure you'll pass.

Summary: Just keep practicing! Wink

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romperstomper... · Trackday Trickster Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Karma :

The Tot · World Chat Champion Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Karma :

The gay think about the H&P test is that it's not clever enough to differentiate between an "observant clicker", i.e the ones who are clicking at every bend, looking out for potential hazards and the like, with somebody who randomly clicks because everything is "oh so quiet" in the clip - i never liked the CD roms i practised with as i thought it was a bunch of shit - how can they question my judgement and reasoning?

IMO, i think that everytime you click for a hazard, there should really be a drop down list which allows you to identify the hazard and thus provides the reason for clicking - otherwise mr daft pratt will still get away with clicking on an empty road with hedges, probably not even remotely realising that there are hedges on the road. I also believe that it's right to click on every parked car in the assumption a child will no doubt run out - in my case on my car theory, it did. I think they need to change the laws a little and get rid of the hazard perception interactive thingy and actually get that done with an instructor instead - as we ride, we are continually assessing hazards and stuff, so if you're already doing that, you'll be fine.
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Rift. · Scooby Slapper Joined: 23 Oct 2004 Karma :

There have been driving instructors taking that hazard test and failed because they click to early Embarassed

(as they can see when the hazard will appear) thus failing Miserably hahaha
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romperstomper... · Trackday Trickster Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Karma :

Just phoned dsa for official response, and the answer is ............
you only click and get points for developing hazards, no need to click for road signs, bends,ect !
Most of you told me this but just wanted to make sure !
The DSA DVD just makes it confusing ! Confused

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pipnet11 · Brolly Dolly Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Karma :

I hated the hazard perception test! It was quite possible to see the hazard beofre the computer thought you could! GRRRRR Evil or Very Mad

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Doobrey · Nova Slayer Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Karma :

Okay, here is my two penneth....

On the perception test you need to click the mouse when you see a potential hazard occuring. That is to say something that would force you to adjust you speed, direction or even a shoulder check before you would do something. Remeber, if the potential hazard increases in severity, then click again....if it changes, then click again...

I achieved quite a high score on my test, (Luck?!?), but when I saw pedestrians I clicked, when I saw parked cars, I clicked, when I saw junctions I clicked...etc...

Just be sensible about it. If you see a lot of flags, stop clicking - you will get some points if not all, as remember, if you click too many times you will fail that harzard and get "0" points...= not good.

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romperstomper... · Trackday Trickster Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Karma :

Well I passed but only just with 50/75 , I think the test is seriously flawed and I'm going to drink 8 bottles of beer as a protest Evil or Very Mad

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tashyluv · L Plate Warrior Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Karma :

omg it is crap! I have the driving test success theory and hazard perception combined and i done fine on that one i never failed once, but after a while the clips where repeating and i knew what was comeing, so i got the driving test success hazard clips only to get a bit more practice. Im just confused I get 0 points for most of the clips even when i know whats coming. I have my theory test tommorrow so this better not muddle me up. what do you think, should i keep practicing this cd?

tashyluv · L Plate Warrior Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Karma :

omg it is crap! I have the driving test success theory and hazard perception combined and i done fine on that one i never failed once, but after a while the clips where repeating and i knew what was comeing, so i got the driving test success hazard clips only to get a bit more practice. Im just confused I get 0 points for most of the clips even when i know whats coming. I have my theory test tommorrow so this better not muddle me up. what do you think, should i keep practicing this cd?

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AndyT · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 28 Apr 2006 Karma :

I took mine yesterday and passed, the problem is on the 10 point double hazard clip i got a big fat zero for apprently cheating when i saw lots of potential hazards (i got told of for saying, possibly a little too loudly, THATS CRAP) and passed with 52 out of 75 (pass mark is 44 i think). It shouldn;t be too bad as long as you have done a bit of practice you should be fine just try not to click to regular and be selective about a developing hazard and a general awareness item. Like above a car in a side road is an awareness item but one reversing out of a drive is a developing hazard.
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krebsy · World Chat Champion Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Karma :

Passed it no problems on the day but it seems tobe more luck than judgement to be honest. My feedback at the end was more or less:

Improve video quality as the resolution kept hazards that were in the distance unclear.
Scoring should be based on identifying what the hazard is combined with when you can see it. more points given for actual hazards but some given for potential hazards. Your score should be dependant on Where you click on the screen to show you have identified what the hazard is. i.e. Clicking on the woman on the pavement pushing the pram is scored as an identified potential hazard whereas clickin on the car that has crossed the central line whilst coming towards you as soon as it does is an actual hazard, identified as soon as it became one.

Or some such like... Smile

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