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PostPosted: 22:42 - 29 Nov 2006    Post subject: What alarm/chain is most used by people on here?....... Reply with quote

had to post this after reading the Datatool topic, as mentioned there i have a fairly thick chain which is like a miniature anchors chain off a ship(design and built the same way) but i also want an alarm, cheap, not bothered about it being approved or owt at the mo, suggestions?
cheers, steve. Thumbs Up

*edit i suppose it is not strictly like an anchor chain in everyone's view, but it is in mine. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 29 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an oxford chain - £10 from BCF with an oxford disclock that's thatcham approved.
I don't use and alarm as I don't want to sleigh my battery, besides, the bike's out of ear shot anyway.
I have considered getting a rape alarm and attaching it to the inside of the cover I use.. so that if it's lifted off the bike it will sound, in a brick room that's going to be deafening and alert the security guard opposite the shed.. if he hasn't noticed the shed being broken into.

*EDIT* forgot bike is datatagged too.

If I was to buy again I think I'd go for an Almax chain, I just wanted soemthing cheap to anchor the bike to something solid, the oxford chain is very long and comes with a brand name.. so looks a little better for £10 than an Aldi one for £9.
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 29 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ALMAX all the way mate!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: 00:05 - 30 Nov 2006    Post subject: Re: What alarm/chain is most used by people on here?....... Reply with quote

st3v3 wrote:
had to post this after reading the Datatool topic, as mentioned there i have a fairly thick chain which is like a miniature anchors chain off a ship(design and built the same way) but i also want an alarm, cheap, not bothered about it being approved or owt at the mo, suggestions?
cheers, steve. Thumbs Up


Er....thats nothing like an anchor chain....Its just a standard chain, it maybe as rusty as an anchor chain though.https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/finglonga/Finglonga%20Inc/ne_nau.gif

This is an anchor chain....

https://www.anchor-chains.net/images/anchor_chain.jpg
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PostPosted: 00:51 - 30 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

can't find pics of the differences i meant to show, never mind, wiould still like info though. Embarassed Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 02:36 - 30 Nov 2006    Post subject: Re: What alarm/chain is most used by people on here?....... Reply with quote

Finglonga wrote:
st3v3 wrote:
had to post this after reading the Datatool topic, as mentioned there i have a fairly thick chain which is like a miniature anchors chain off a ship(design and built the same way) but i also want an alarm, cheap, not bothered about it being approved or owt at the mo, suggestions?
cheers, steve. Thumbs Up


Er....thats nothing like an anchor chain....Its just a standard chain, it maybe as rusty as an anchor chain though.https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/finglonga/Finglonga%20Inc/ne_nau.gif

This is an anchor chain....

https://www.anchor-chains.net/images/anchor_chain.jpg


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PostPosted: 03:52 - 30 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cant say from a lot of experience - I havent had a bike for long, much less had one stolen.
But having done the same research recently, I can say this:

1) Unless you are going to get an approved alarm (so you can get an insurance discount) and unless you dont mind your battery running flat on occasion, then dont bother with an alarm.
Just buy a flashing LED kit that makes it look like its got an alarm. Cost you a fiver from Maplin or some such.

2) Get a decent chain. And from the recent video footage I have seen, dont buy Oxford, Abus or any of the other "Endorsed" chains.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC3hFr8p2ck&NR

3) Cover your bike. The fewer people that see it, the fewer people have a mental map of where they can find bike X when someone wasnts a stolen-to-order. Also, cover deters the little shites from the council estates - its covered, they cant tell what it is, or what protection its got.

4) I have heard a cunning suggestion - but havent tried it myself - and thats to use a baby monitor. If your bike is close enough to your bed (and your street sufficiently quiet), you just go to bed with the monitor - and anyone starts screwing with your bike, you will hear them.
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PostPosted: 08:53 - 30 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almax Series 3 and Datatool system 3 alarm and Kryptonite New York Chain all down to 2 Datatool Ground Anchors. I didn't buy them all in one go though, they have just accumulated over the years.

I still don't hold out much hope against theft though to be honest. If they know what they are doing they will have it anyway. I like to know I have done all I could though.
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PostPosted: 09:06 - 30 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

rat bikes are more effective, that said chains and stuff ain't for my security , they are for insurance discounts!
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 30 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont bother with chains or alarms.

I just tie my matey (pictured here below) to the bike wherever I go.

Hehe... Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 30 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark83 wrote:
I dont bother with chains or alarms.

I just tie my matey (pictured here below) to the bike wherever I go.

Hehe... Laughing


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PostPosted: 11:24 - 30 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

froggeh wrote:
mark83 wrote:
I dont bother with chains or alarms.

I just tie my matey (pictured here below) to the bike wherever I go.

Hehe... Laughing


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PostPosted: 11:32 - 30 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

datatool veto evo for me, works a treat although it does chirp like a budgie when wind hits it Very Happy

cheers

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PostPosted: 12:28 - 30 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark83 wrote:
I dont bother with chains or alarms.

I just tie my matey (pictured here below) to the bike wherever I go.

Hehe... Laughing


Dogs don't work. They just get hit with a shovel until they back off or are too broken to do anything.

Above is my uni 'security'
at home I have a few trip wires, and a remote alarm, that sounds in the house but not in the shed Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 30 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meta 357TV2 alarm. Came with the bike.

Drains the battery, but when you have an Optimate hooked up too the bike it doesn't really matter.
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 30 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that alarms are not all that effective, but they might be a deterrent for the casual/nervous thief. Having an alarm that isn't approved is pointless, as you won't get the insurance discount.

My Fazer has a Meta alarm, and at times of high-risk, an Almax chain.

Another good deterrent is Datatag. I'm lead to believe that most stolen 'bikes are broken for spares, and by having Datatag transponders or chemical etching on the parts, they become worthless / too risky. There are other tagging systems e.g. Alphadot and Smart Water. Police only need to find one dot / microchip to identift the part, and it's excellent evidence for use in court.

Both my 'bikes have Datatag fitted.
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 30 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Data Tagged parts, Datatool system 3 alarm and heavy duty plastic coated chain from B&Q with a heavy duty single piece machined padlock (connected to the ground anchor in the locked garage).

Plus plastic coated heavy duty bike cable and padlock looped through the garage door and the ground anchor/bike chain.

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PostPosted: 19:52 - 30 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^^^^^^ so you will notice it being tampered with^^^^^^^

think will get a small battery, and wired L.E.D for time being, then when re-insur my bike in Feb, get apprved alarm and fairly cheap almax, thanks.
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 30 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bike is fitted with a Meta M357T V2 alarm/immobiliser. It is thatcham approved (cat 1) and my one doesn't drain the battery any more than necessary, it can last stand for three weeks with the alarm on and will still start okay after that period. That in my opinion is perfectly acceptable in terms of battery drain.

I use an English Chains Superlink Chain, combined with a ground anchor at home. I'm not going to get into the Almax debate here, but I like my chain and think that it is quite adequete for the job. I did plenty of research before I bought it.

Other than this my bike is also Datatagged (every bit helps) and for when I am out and about I have an Oxford Omega disc lock which is thatcham approved and also have a cheap Oxford cable lock. The cable lock is purely for lightweight carrying capabilities, if you have ever tried carrying around a hefty chain you will know how impractible it is.
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 01 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont have an alarm as of yet (will soon. something like an alarmed disc lock as they are nice and small) but I have a chain and padlock which originates from a wheel clamp in south london Mr. Green Its solid and very heavy to carry around.

My other security devices are a pair british bulldogs Cool Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 01 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almax series 3 with the squire lock, bloody heavy, but worth it!
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 01 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine is secured in a locked garage.

Back wheel chained by a 13mm Rhino Sold secure gold chain and lock (Yes I know it can be cropped and seen the vids) to a Sold secure gold ground anchor.

Front wheel has a Oxford boss alarm disk lock through the front disk (Thatcham)

Oh yea and its insured.

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PostPosted: 21:00 - 02 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

KTM Gordo wrote:
I agree that alarms are not all that effective, but they might be a deterrent for the casual/nervous thief. Having an alarm that isn't approved is pointless, as you won't get the insurance discount.

My Fazer has a Meta alarm, and at times of high-risk, an Almax chain.

Another good deterrent is Datatag. I'm lead to believe that most stolen 'bikes are broken for spares, and by having Datatag transponders or chemical etching on the parts, they become worthless / too risky. There are other tagging systems e.g. Alphadot and Smart Water. Police only need to find one dot / microchip to identift the part, and it's excellent evidence for use in court.

Both my 'bikes have Datatag fitted.


i have mine alarmed with one that's not approved. reason being is that it does the same thing. cost me £30 instead of £300 (where i would have saved about a tenner. saving what there?).
don't use datatag/smartwater etc... as like it's been said before, if i were a thief and were going to nick someones bike for the parts worth thousands of pounds. i'd say the risk of someone bothering to get their bargain part they just bought scanned by the police, far out weighs the amount of money i'd be making.
how often have people on here bought really cheap parts and taken them to the police just to be safe? not ever amirite?

got it covered. for security, and i feel better that it's not getting nastyness on it.

have a big chain and lock which i don't normally use unless i'm not using it for an extended period of time.
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 02 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brick built garage
Almax Immobiliser III with Squire padlock
Kryptonite XL disk lock
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 02 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alarm and mobiliser, front and rear disc locks, chain and solid block of metal and its heavy.

If they really want it they will find a way but there gonna make helava racket getting from where its stored, also living close to one's neighbours has its advantages too.

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