Your thoughts please?

[Minty]

The roads on my estate are quite narrow. Every day, without fail, the attached picture happens, several times. It pisses me right off, especially buses - they just completely block my path.

To set the scene:
My side of the road is clear, on the adjascent side are parked cars. I pootle along and the vehicle coming the other way doesnt give way at all - just comes out from behind the parked cars making me have to change my direction and hug the kerb. Or, in the case of buses, drop anchor and wait for them to pass.

I have varying responses dependant on the day I am having/had. If they are lucky I gesticulate and hurl a random expletive. On occassions, when cars have been right over, I just stop, staying on the line I was on, and block the road. Stare - make clear I aint happy, gesticulate, hurl an expletive and move on.

Am I missing something or is the general etiquete that I just move over and let the vehicle pass?
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[landy.s11a]

its a lot safer for you to move over and let them pass
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[Ichy]

Can't see what the problem is, there's enough room for both of you so just keep going.

Although I've got to admit that some guy blocking the way forward and staring at me would really make me change my ways, and if he was then to gesticulate and hurl random expletives at me, well I might just be so scared that I might end up swerving all over the road and accidentally knock him off his bike.

Stuff like this really bugs me, how sad must your life be that something so minor winds you up that much? Yeah it does get annoying at times but honestly, does doing stuff like that really help?

[ncrn]

I get this a lot, basically I stand my ground and use my lane, if people see you diving over they are gonna expect you to do it, its dangerous to go to the kerb as you could hit the kerb, or not fit through the gap, and the road surface is never good there.

If a car pulls out into my lane as I'm riding I stop and wait for them to go back, if they don't and I'm not in a rush I'm happy to have a stalemate

I get a long road with cars parked like this, and find if I hold my ground and don't move over cars will stop or pull back into their own as well, they have to or they'll crash into me by driving in my lane

EDIT: Thought I'd like to add if the car is waiting for me to go pass, and theres room for the both of us to safely pass, I'll move over and let them through, if they assume I'm going to move over I won't
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[Minty]

[gixxersixx]

Use your full beam, if this fails, stop the bike in the middle of the road put the side stand down and get off, go up to the window of the car or bus tell them to get the f**k outa the way and your not moving until they reverse up, lock the bike up using a couple of disc locks so they cant wheel it out of the way. The other option is as you ride past take their wing mirror off, or attach some sharp objects to you knee sliders and take the whole side of the car out.
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If it's the same bus a lot of the time hold up a sign saying.

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[Mark312]

Have you tried a simliar situation on the school run in the morning, in a car, with a thousand kids on push bikes (and on foot) weaving in and out often on the wrong side of the road, parked cars abandoned everywhere, trying to get your kids to school on time like everybody else? This is a scary situation, when the slightest misjudgement could injure someone around you. Add into the equation trying to be courteous to other drivers / riders, who often seem oblivious to your friendly helpful nature. This is everyday driving / riding, and you should not get wound up. I do this every morning, dropping the kids off at school on the way to work, but I don't get steamed up swearing and gesticulating at everybody who wrongs me, because there's just no point. I'd only end up going to work in a bad mood, and because of my mood, I might make that minor misjudgement.

My advice is to keep calm, swear to yourself in your helmet if you want, and stay safe.
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[MattEMulsion]

If there is enough room for both you on your bike and a car to pass you along this stretch with the parked vehicles, then I honestly can't see any problem.

I have always found there is quite a bit of give and take whilst driving/riding and generally speaking if there is enough room for both of you then it is the general etiquette to move across a little so you can both make progress on your journey.

I drive for a living so I reckon I have got a pretty good opinion on whats what with the roads and I find that where there is enough room to perform a manoeuvre such as this, the majority of drivers realise this and act accordingly. Therefore if you are finding yourself in this situation a lot, then the other road users can't all be in the wrong and their perception of the situation is somewhat different to yours.

Its not dissimilar to filtering whilst you are on your bike. That is only about progressing and making use of all of the available room. Ie the cars may be queueing in the lanes but if there is enough room for you to squeeze through on your bike nobody is going to stop you. Its all about give and take...
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[bin]

Its because they are bigger and ignorant tossers.
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[Minty]

[69.9mph]

If you get hold of 'The Official DSA Guide to Riding' and go to page 106 you'll see:

'Your position should allow you to
(3) move over to left to create more room for oncoming traffic that's passing stationary vehicles or other obstructions'

I'm not an examiner but if you don't do this on your test it'll probably be marked as a fault.

If you ever get the opportunity to drive something like a PSV/HGV then you'll be more sympathetic to their requirements and be more likely to give way to them.

[angryjonny]

If there's enough room for us both to pass I move over automatically. If there isn't I stick to the middle and make myself look big. Some idiots still try to get through but the majority don't.

[Ichy]

[J0Al1]

I have oftain found that people take the attitude - 'I am bigger than you'. This applies to cars too. There are quite a few big four by fours in my area and they like to squash me in my car into the verge!!!!!

[Minty]

[extreme3d]

Technically it's your right of way as the obstruction is on their side of the road, yet what's wrong with moving over and letting them past to?

It's far better to be smooth and minimise disruption to the flow of traffic. Moving over doesn't really affect your progress in any way and it's showing a bit of generosity, something this world is lacking in.

[gixxersixx]

I agree if theres room to move over then I would, but if the road is narrow and its going to be a tight squeeze then why should you have to be put at risk by some idiot, another option is reach through the open window take their keys out of the ignition and throw them into the nearest bush
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[krebsy]

Around my way (to get to work and I generally cycle this) there is a width restriction/speed hump combo. on the road, a "Buses only" lane that skirts it that all the cars get dumped in whilst dropping little timmy off to school and the road either side of the hump has two junctions into the school and is normally coated down either side with parked cars. you can fit a car through the gap and most of the parents seem to open doors without looking, turn into the side roads without indicating and I've even had them reverse out onto the road straight at me with no signals and n checking. The spped hump bit is the worst as there are cars parked on all sides near it and the drivers seem to just pootole along over it, blocking it at times which stops parents using it as a crossing point (it's intended purpose.

Last week I had a van lazily turn across me (on my mountain bike), more of a "drift to the right than a turn", no signals and forced me to a. slam on the anchors (which I hate doing as I've smashed myself up badly having to emergency brake before), b. swerve around him and c. punch the side of the van with a nice reverberating "clang" to wake him up...

I'm seriously considering going the wrong way out of the estate then looping round (adding 5 to 10 mins to a 700 yard trip) just to avoid the maelstrom...

K.
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[bin]

Before I retired I drove the length and breadth of britain, Isle of white, france and germany also holidays where by car in most of the eu countries and I will keep to my original statement that "in this situation the lorry driver is nothing more than a bully"......if he was already overtaking the parked vehicles then thats fair, but if he wasnt then I would report him, he may be on drugs or drink etc.....
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[Ariel Badger]

I think it is a matter of what you ride and attitude.
I live in inner city Birmingham a daily ride on buisy narrow roads. My daily bike is a British single with baffle free exhaust so they hear me coming. I ride with a 25W pilot in town and it shines a lot so they see me coming.
Then there is attitude when I see a vehicle coming towards me I move out into its path, stand my ground and open the throttle hard. I have been told that I look like I bite the heads off chickens and that helps as well. It is an Alpha Male ting I guess.
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[G]

As others have said, if there's space, then it's courteous to move so that they can pass.
Driving in a car; if there was space for two cars to pass, but only if the one overtaking traffic goes into the opposing lane and the car in the opposing lane has to move; it's 'expected' that the car in the opposing lane does move.

[Ichy]