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PostPosted: 13:56 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Racist Big Brother? Reply with quote

Ok, so its all over the news.
https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6265127.stm
Is it racist...or is it just bullying?
But because the bullyin is directed at an indian, its racist?
I admit i have seen very little of the program so you may say i dont have a leg to stand on in this arguement. But from what ive seen, any comments made about Shilpa, have been just dislike and bitching. I havent seen any comments, (for purposed of the arguement only)such as 'shes a stupid paki', so whats the problem?
Do people not expect there not be bitching/dislike/bullying, its been happening series after series!
If Shilpa was bitching about jade ie. making fun of her accent, would that be racist? Or is this all just Polictical Correctness Hype? You cant mock her accent because shes indian?
What are your views?
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jade's mixed race so i doubt her or Jack would single someone out because of her colour or where she's from. Although i did hear that Jack called her a 'Paki' but it was edited out?
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok so Jade was a bad example. Im slightly mis informed i did say lol
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

From BBC site wrote:
Housemates Jade Goody, Danielle Lloyd and Jo O'Meara have been seen making fun of the Bollywood star's accent.


What a load of shit! How is making fun of an accent being racist?

Cause no one ever does impression of the French, Americans, Germans, Welsh, Scottish, English.

Why is it that soon as a joke is made about a Muslim or person who is black/brown etc.. then its racist!?

What a fucking joke, the MEDIA are the ones to blame for exagerating all the rasist crap that goes on. THEY are the trouble makes, not the public.

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PostPosted: 14:58 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What a load of shit! How is making fun of an accent being racist?

Cause no one ever does impression of the French, Americans, Germans, Welsh, Scottish, English.

Why is it that soon as a joke is made about a Muslim or person who is black/brown etc.. then its racist!?

What a fucking joke, the MEDIA are the ones to blame for exagerating all the rasist crap that goes on. THEY are the trouble makes, not the public.


Im glad its not just me who thinks this. I think its so fickle that anything directed from a white person to a person of ethnic minority or different skin colour, it is branded racist immediately.
If random attacks were being committed on people, and one of the victims happened to be asian, it would undoubtedly be racially aggrevated.
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

sagiliam wrote:
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What a load of shit! How is making fun of an accent being racist?

Cause no one ever does impression of the French, Americans, Germans, Welsh, Scottish, English.

Why is it that soon as a joke is made about a Muslim or person who is black/brown etc.. then its racist!?

What a fucking joke, the MEDIA are the ones to blame for exagerating all the rasist crap that goes on. THEY are the trouble makes, not the public.


Im glad its not just me who thinks this. I think its so fickle that anything directed from a white person to a person of ethnic minority or different skin colour, it is branded racist immediately.
If random attacks were being committed on people, and one of the victims happened to be asian, it would undoubtedly be racially aggrevated.
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Whoever is the minority it would probably be seen as racially aggrevated white or black. White in Africa, black in Uk etc etc.

Same if a white person was in an Indian BB.
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over 1000 complaints are thrown at Eastenders for their plots, racism, incest, necrophilia (spelling) all of these are written from real life events.

Shit happens.

If Jade was in an Indian big brother, she'd be ripped apart.

She's dumb, and fuc*ing annoying, that's an insult in its self.

Shilpa is a grown woman, but she seems to have come from a life style not that of your working class British society.....shit happens.
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

whats this Big Brother you speak of
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 18:31 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't think it is racist by any stretch of the imagination, however I hope the public deem it racist just so that Jade Goody has to crawl into a hole and never show her pig like face on TV ever again.

If there is one "celebrity" I hate it has to be Jade.
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:

If there is one "celebrity" I hate it has to be Jade.

I may dislike her, but avoid any sight of such people by not watching the crap TV they appear on Smile.

I bet this is the 'white middle class' people in the media trying to stir up controversy to sell a few more papers Rolling Eyes.
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shilpa is a bit of an awkward person to live with as she is used to having everything her won way, so she doesnt realise when she is being unreasonable.

Jade knows she doesnt like the way Shilpa behaves, but cant pin her down on examples of why and how she is out of order.

Jade then gets her gang to hate shilpa. Id say its bullying, but its worth remembering that often the victim somehow does something that triggers the bullying.

I think you could say it was sort of racist as its partly due to the difference in cultures, but mostly id say its a personality clash.

Hopefully the public will hate the jade gang for being mean and kick them out, even if shilpa is a bit annoying.
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Jade may already be hated:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,11049-2007010451,00.html

Alot of these celebs need to look up the meaning quit while you're ahead.
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:
I think Jade may already be hated:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,11049-2007010451,00.html

Alot of these celebs need to look up the meaning quit while you're ahead.


I think the producers have to look up the meaning of 'Celebrity', I think they got the wrong page and accidently used 'Nobody'.
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd slip Shilpa a length, but don't actually watch the show so can't really comment in an informed manner on the allegations. A quick flick through the BBC site seems to suggest that the comments made towards the Indian lass were more boorish and unpleasant than racially discriminatory.

Being horrible to an Indian is not automatically racist, despite what the Guardian would have us believe.
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mister James wrote:
Being horrible to an Indian is not automatically racist, despite what the Guardian would have us believe.


I'm sure Gen. Custer will rest easy in his grave now. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect Gen. Custer is more aggrieved by Indians being nasty to him.
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

to be fair, i suspect he started it
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PostPosted: 00:23 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
to be fair, i suspect he started it


I think the 'Preview Post' button should be compulsory before submission of a post for Colin, to give him a chance to think about what he puts. Laughing
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PostPosted: 07:49 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw breifly Narinda (spelling) talking about the situation with that Dermot.....she was trying to get it heated, she said she's Asian herself so would put her views across, she was saying it is bascially racism.
Dermot was trying to tell her it's not really like that, there' nothing been said that really is meant in a hateful way.

Do people suddenly forget what happens in the real world when they are on TV??!
And this is called a reality TV show, real things happen, real people dislike other people.

Take the over seas big brother, the UK media and PC thinking public would have a field day with what happens in there.
I think it's pathetic, anything those girls talk about makes them look thick as shit.
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Brother= Big Bother

cant be arsed with it, and as for the racism issues, why don't they just act like adults instead of 3 y/o's in a playground fight.
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
I bet this is the 'white middle class'.
You have a problem with white middle class people in general or those that work for the media?
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a problem with a lot of the media generally.

I also have a problem with the 'white middle class' people that decide that people different to them will be terribly insulted and needed to be protected by limiting what others should say.

For me there are many things that aren't very nice to say - just out of common courtesy, not 'political correctness'. But suggesting describing someone that comes from India as 'The Indian' as racist seems rather ridiculous as it's descriptive and not particularly 'insulting' etc.

I expect I would be considered 'White Middle Class'.
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PostPosted: 11:36 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worse bullying has happened in the past in BB, far worse IMO, nothing was said then.
I think this would be much different if the genders were different.
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PostPosted: 12:03 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa wrote:
Worse bullying has happened in the past in BB, far worse IMO, nothing was said then.
I think this would be much different if the genders were different.

Yeah, i'm sure the said could have been said about the bullying of Shabaz in last years BB, he could have easily used the "it's cos I am gay" card. It's just an excuse to infuse more racial tension throughout the country.
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