Grrr, idiots on frosty mornings.

[yambabe]

Is driving on a frosty morning without clearing your widows first counted as Driving Without Due Care and Attention, or even Dangerous Driving? Cos it bloody well should be!

I only do a short commute (2 miles or so) and with it being so cold this morning there was no way I was even considering the bike so once I was up and dressed I went out to the car, started the engine to get the heaters going, then came back in.

By the time I'd had my breakfast and put my boots on all my car windows were clear, the engine was idling smoothly and off I went nice and safely.

So WHY did I continually see morons trying to peer through a tiny hole in their frosty screens, washers going like mad to no effect, wipers skidding over the frost? Or windscreens clear but side windows totally opaque? Back windows totally bolloxed even on cars with rear screen heaters? WHY are people so dense for the sake of at most an extra 5-10 minutes on their morning commute?

Had at least 3 very near misses this morning, totally due to other people's laziness and disregard for the fact that they couldn't see and only avoided because I could see and had time to take avoiding action!

Bloody idiots.

Thanks for listening!
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[Annabella]

Dangerous Driving I believe.

Jon got rear ended by a woman who couldn't see where she was going because she hadn't cleared her windscreen, we reported the accident to the police and I believe they will be charging her with DD. We've not heard anything from them though... some chasing may be in order.

If you drive without your vision corrected (i.e. without glasses) then it's DD, so driving with an opaque windscreen should also be considered Dangerous Driving in my opinion.
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[yambabe]

I am lucky enough to live in a quiet culdesac now, true.

Previously when I lived on our local shithole estate (where if I'd left the car running and unattended for more than 30 seconds it would have probably been nicked) I would go out to the car 5-10 mins earlier than usual and sit in it til it warmed up.

It's not hard. Don't start to drive til you can see where you're going ffs!
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[Annabella]

Ice scraper anyone?

I made one in year 8 design and technology and my Dad used it to scrape our windscreens for at least three weeks until it snapped in half


I'm lucky that I have the luxury of it not really mattering if I'm late for work but when it's icey you start out earlier, and if need be, sit in your far watching the windscreen de-mist listening to the radio and sucking mints/boiled sweets.
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[angryjonny]

I've seen an option for some Volvos (in Sweden at least - not sure if you can get it in the UK) where you have a power cable that comes out the front of the car. Simply plug the Volvo into the mains and it warms itself up and de-ices itself while you eat your breakfast. Then it's all clear and toasty warm for you to set out.

Still no use if you live on the 10th floor though.

[byke95]

Pfft, just move to the south coast - only two frosty mornings in Bournemouth so far this winter!

Anyways, frost on the car is the perfect excuse to be late for work in my opinion! 5-10 minutes? Best give it 15 just to be on the safe side...

[grandmaster]

You could at one time buy an alarm (for mainly automatics) that would allow you to remote start your car.

all the doors would be locked (and any other steering security would be in place) so harder to steal while you have your breakfast.

I'm quite fortunate that i have a garage so the morning windscreen clearing session i avoid..
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[binge]

Ive got 2 sets of keys on my 206. I go out with one set, Start the car up. The lock and alarm the car with the other set of keys.

It takes about 5 minutes to warm up and defrost.

It takes 5 minutes wheather its ticking over, or wheather its driving along a road. So why dont these people just start their car up, and sit in the car for 5 minutes until it all defrosts.

They have to sit in a cold car anyway, Wheather they are sat still or driving.


Its lazyness.


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[ken]

totaly understand all the points in reference to lazy drivers that cant wait untill there screen is clear, and then risk there's and other peoples limbs


not a problem for me, just run a Ford, heated front screen, defrosts the deepest of frosts in less than a minute



bloody hell I sound like an advert
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[faithless75]

As already mentioned, I think it's classed as dangerous driving. It's awful to see drivers desperately trying to de-mist their windscreens while peering out, and can result in tradgedy.

Just over a year ago two girls left my work around 7pm. Of course at this time of year it's frosty and dark outside.
The driver didn't clear her windscreen and as she drove through the industrial estate she hit the back of a parked trailer at around 35-40 mph. The driver died at the scene and the passenger had four broken limbs and was in a wheelchair all of last year.

It may take an extra 10 minutes, but recon I'd rather drive with a clear view.
Take care out there.
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[owdamer]

Imbecile couple who live across the road from us both start their cars early in the morning and leave then running with the heaters turned on full. As if its not bad enough having to listen to their engines when i'm still in bed she has her radio blasting out as well.
One of these days i'll get in her car and drive it off to teach the ignorant cow a lesson.

[wikiwiki]

i guess, if you wanted to, you could just get on your bike and ride off in 15 seconds
windscreens.................pah

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A while back when we had a short few days of coldness, was in van going down the road where our offfices are and this car was coming towards us and he has his head stuck out the window... wasn't sure what he was doing until he got closer, his windscreen waas completely iced over , fully , 100% no where to see through so he wound the window down and leant out the side whilst driving what a fuckin twat!!
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