Tubed and tubeless tyres and blowouts?

[froggeh]

Ok, As I am considering getting a trail or dual purpose bike for my main ride I was just wondering about the safety of tubed tyres?

Are the more off-road tubed tyres more prone to blowout?
And if so is there anything you can do to reduce the risk?

Or is it something just not to worry about?

[Finglonga]

Tubed tyres are better as there are two items that must fail before the blowout. If the tube goes first you will have a slow deflation and if the tyre goes first you will feel it and stop before the tube has time to go.

Had one years ago with a tubless tyre (rear) and it was nasty. Just managed to keep it in a straight line...Now if it was the front..
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Tubeless tyres should be less prone to blowouts.

However neither should be occuring that often. Make sure that you are using a tyre designed to run with a tube, or at the very least a tube designed to go in a tubeless tyre (tubeless tyres are a lot less finished on the inside, which damages inner tubes).

All the best

Keith
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[Itchy]

you can get wire wheels sealed up for £35 a wheel so they can take tubeless tyres , I've got the link somewhere since I was going to give the link to Joe.

which is kind of interesting wonder if they'd make a ZX10R with wire wheels to save even more weight and get a 1:1.2 weight to power ratio.
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[froggeh]

I would have thought a blowout on a tubed tyre would be worse.

On a tubeless tyre surely the thickness of the rubber slows down the speed of air escape?

[Finglonga]

[froggeh]

[Kickstart]

Not likely, no.

All the best

Keith
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[Skudd]

Used tubed tyres for 20 odd years had blow outs but stayed upright. Had slow punctures and didn't. Punctures in general are not a common thing really though. ( Tubed tyres are cheeper to repair )
I've run on tubless tyres for the past 3 years but have puncture seal added just incase, but again punctures are rare so don't get all worked up. Unless your name is Hammond and you are driving a jet car at 288 mph then punctures are worth noting.
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[stinkwheel]

Don't worry about the type of tyre. I've run tubes in tubeless tyres loads of times. In fact, on my last bike, they were standard equipment. I was running ME Z1s on wire wheels.

At worst, the tyres will heat up more quickly with a tube in. Unless you are doing silly mph approaching the speed rating of the tyre, this is actually likely to be more an advantage in this country. Certainly not an issue on a trailie.

In short, don't worry about it. If the tyre is going to blow out, it means it has either had a huge hole slashed in the side of it by something sharp or there is a serious defect in the tyre itself. I doubt the presence or otherwise of a tube will make a hell of a lot of difference in either situation.

[froggeh]

[Finglonga]

[froggeh]

Ok this is what I mean... Thanks for the link Itchy


https://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/tech/tubeless_tire_seal/

and a quote...

[Finglonga]

Worth remembering that Moto cross bikes have tubed tyres. They go to hell and bak and you don't see them having problems.
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