ZZR zx600 D1 ?

[greatmoorred]

Any views on this bike ?
Im after moving up from my 400 Bandit which i have had a year ( £1000 ono, if anyones looking )
So i thought i might get a nice big kawasaki, are these bikes any good, or would i be better on a Proper Ninja ZX600R ?

[jimbothe]

Good bikes,comfy and fast enough to break the law quite easily.

Very reliable in my experience and the d1 is cheap to buy now


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[Tiff]

I bought a ZZR400D as my first big bike,and have now fitted a 600D engine to it.It now goes like stink,is comfy for hours on end,and parts are cheap and easily avaliable.Just watch out for gearbox problems and rotten standard downpipes.
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[tatters]

Try and go for a E1 model (1993 on-wards) much better bikes than the D1,s
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[bunglehaze]

excellent bike (the E model is anyway) The one major thing to watch out for with them is the dicey gearbox, they all clunk going into 2nd but tonk it about and change up from first - make sure it stays in gear and does not jump out or click about - I have just lost my 2nd gear and need to strip the gearbox down when I find a decent replacement...

Apart from that, fast, comfy and relatively reliable, nice and roomy but could use a better suspension it has to be said, its not bad just a little on the soft side.

regards

leigh
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[chris___]

You'd be better off with an E-model than a D mate, although the D is by no means a bad bike.

As has been said, watch out for if the bike jumps out of 2nd gear, a common problem on ZZR's. If it does then walk away as the replacement part is worth pennies, bur requires a full strip down to get at. Also if you're using the bike all year, clean her very regularly as build quality isnt the best. Calipers seize up very easily, fasteners seize and can be a bastard to get loose. The susupension is quite soft.

If you buy one you wont be dissapointed though, seriously quick bike, really comfy, great for pillions, has luggage clips on the side and aint that shabby round the twisties either.

[EDBANGER]

Get a Thudercat!! I've owned both the ZZR and the Cat and the cat is far better IMO. I thought the riding postion on the ZZR was a little odd.
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[greatmoorred]

thanks guys. Once again lots of opinions !
It seems mostly positive though.
I think i might take it for a test ride.

[bunglehaze]

Chris_biker.... If the replacement parts cost pennies can you please point me in the right direction for them.... You need to replace 2nd output dog, top output dog, 2 selector forks and selector drum all of which cost a fortune from Mr Kwak and I am struggling to find another cost effective source .

regards

leigh
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[chris___]

[bunglehaze]

for another bike probably it works out cheap - its a couple of hundred sheets - but whn you have a bike thats only cost about a grand its a fair percentage. You can use that as a bargaining chip in the bikes sale though (slight clunk in the gearbox, common fault £350 to fix £500+ for kwak to do it etc etc )

cheers

leigh
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[bunglehaze]

Its usually the selector drum thats the problem, the top edge rounds off which then causes the jumping and excessive wear on the dogs. Out of all the gearbox replacements I have read up on it has been the same parts list I gave above that needed the replacement.

regards

leigh
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Once in gear it is the dogs holding it there, not the selector drum.

All the best

Keith
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[bunglehaze]

But they never quite get into gear properly with this problem, the rounding off occurs on the selector barrel as in the image. Once I have the replacement parts for my ZZR I will post up photos of the before and after damage on the drum and the wear on the 2 dogs mentioned.

Its worth noting that to buy these parts new I worked it out to cost 400 euro's without any shipping included, you can get a new engine for about £300 with less than 5000 miles on it if you look around so you have to weight up the pro's and cons of each.

regards

leigh
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