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PostPosted: 23:56 - 28 Jan 2007    Post subject: "If you've got nothing to hide..." Reply with quote

"If you've got nothing to hide, then you've nothing to fear"

Probably my most hated thing that anyone can say.

I have nothing to hide but when I hear people say this about subjects like proposed ID cards and new laws it makes me want to punch them. Are people really that short sighted or apathetic about our eroding liberties? Do they believe everything the Government do is for our benefit?

It really boils my piss and the next person to say that in earshot of me is going to get a punch.


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PostPosted: 00:05 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

But seriously I got nothing to hide Neutral
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

you need to calm down, going round wanting to punch people in the face is a bit over the top,

you could end up getting hurt,
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PostPosted: 00:49 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Re: "If you've got nothing to hide..." Reply with quote

Joe wrote:
"If you've got nothing to hide, then you've nothing to fear"


Isn't the full quote: "'If you've got nothing to hide, then you've nothing to fear.' is the cry of tyrants that echoes through history"?

Don't know where from though.
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PostPosted: 01:11 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont see why the government should have it all their own way. They take at least half of eveything i earn, probably more if you count the extra i pay for things, that is because the person selling it has to pay taxes too.

I think I'm entitled to hide a few things, from their sticky mitts (theiving bastards).

So i object to anything that strengthens their hand and that doesnt benefit me.

Im not aware of one useful reason for having ID cards, so having to fork out for one at some point in the future does not please me.

Far more sensible in my view, would be to computerise medical records, so in an emergency, doctors know eveything about the person they are treating.

on the other hand...
Joe wrote:


It really boils my piss and the next person to say that in earshot of me is going to get a punch.


if ID cards protect me from violent individuals with boiling piss, or helps the police lock them up, im all for it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 01:35 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone with a photocard driving licence is virtually carrying an ID card as it stands. All it would need is a few extra bits of info storing on it, that could conceivably help you in some curcumstances (eg: blood group)


Not saying I agree though as I dont think it will acheive what the govenment want it to. If anything it will drive the "illegals" further underground and help make them harder to track
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PostPosted: 01:44 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

ID cards are just one step away from being stopped in the street and being told "Zees papaer are not in order!".
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got loadsa things to hide. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

if there's anything I've learned from working in systems for the last twelve years, it's that everybody has something to hide. For the sake of common taste and decency, I'm much happier not knowing other people's secrets and make sure to give them a respectful distance whenever I'm exposed to them.
It also strikes me as slightly hypocritical that the people who use this argument are usually old dears who wear far too much make-up Rolling Eyes
Next time somebody accuses you of having something to hide, just suggest they strip naked, then accuse them of having something to hide when they refuse. Afterwards, politely remind them that there's a world of difference between a hackneyed cliché and an actual argument
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
ID cards are just one step away from being stopped in the street and being told "Zees papaer are not in order!".


Indeed. As is GPS speed control and a load of other totalitarian authoritarian stuff that this centre left nazi government is bringing in.
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

" If you've got nothing to hide"...

Why are you in the cupboard..?
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

NSR-AD wrote:
Why are you in the cupboard..?


It isn't a cupboard, it's quite clearly a closet!
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaun wrote:
It isn't a cupboard, it's quite clearly a closet!


Have you come out of the closet yet? Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

R4nger wrote:
Have you come out of the closet yet?


Have you stopped being a cock yet?
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil_G wrote:
anyone with a photocard driving licence is virtually carrying an ID card as it stands. All it would need is a few extra bits of info storing on it, that could conceivably help you in some curcumstances (eg: blood group)




no it isn't you don't even need to bring your driving licnce around with you , you can use the defence of a producer instead and produce it in 5 days at a station of your choice.

an ID card is similar to a driving licence ie the type you get in France/Germany , but the government one should be named a government monitoring card , it contains a ton of stuff and has backdoors in which to put more things on it, and is reputed to have an RFID chip which is to be linked to lamp post based readers so your whearabouts can be tracked 24/7

this also requires 1000000s of read write scanners everywhere , which = less security,

+ judging by the DVLA , its going to be crud , even in a society where we can trust the government I'd say no , cus who says the next government can be trusted?.


Funny though how people want to be treated like criminals and sex offenders , only criminals and sex offenders have to register with the police and give finger prints , but people think it will keep them safe , it won't

me and £5 can defeat DNA / Fingerprint evidence and I'm just a hobbyist
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PostPosted: 15:49 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

'If you've got nothing to hide, show me your hands!' Cool
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a story in the news today about a government proposal to install infra-red cameras in town centre lamp posts, to allow "x-ray" photographs to be taken of people walking past.

Basically, most clothing is invisible in the infra-red spectrum, so they'd be able to see if you were hiding a gun or a bomb under your clothes.

Yes - it's in the Sun, so not exactly a reliable source.

Yet another proposed infringment on our privacy though.
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Sun is invisible in the IQ >= 100 spectrum.
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

bazza wrote:
The Sun is invisible in the IQ >= 100 spectrum.


Whilst the sun is a shit paper, the infra-red cameras would work. The only possibility is that the reliability of the 'leaked government proposal' is somewhat suspect. Wink
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

What will it take before the majority of people to say 'enough is enough'?

I admit, thus far, the only thing I've done about it is whinge on an internet forum. Other countries in the EU that has some Euro-crap balls imposed on them just dismiss it out of hand. Why not here in the UK? We just seem to suck it all up and take it. Maybe it's because if we vote for a different political party the faces in government change but their policies stay the same.

It also amazes me that people on the whole are not at all interested in this subject. They'll be the one's wondering how it came to them having a camera in their front room.
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
centre left nazi government


Would be a commi govt... just being pedantic i know Smile
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Torque05 wrote:
Would be a commi govt... just being pedantic i know Smile


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PostPosted: 22:11 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Torque05 wrote:
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centre left nazi government


Would be a commi govt... just being pedantic i know Smile


no on the political compass there are 4 points,

left right , authouritarian and liberal,

Labour are Left and Authoritarian ,

that said Nazis were a socialist party , promising jobs and bread its something like Nazaisocialism.
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe wrote:
What will it take before the majority of people to say 'enough is enough'?

I admit, thus far, the only thing I've done about it is whinge on an internet forum. Other countries in the EU that has some Euro-crap balls imposed on them just dismiss it out of hand. Why not here in the UK? We just seem to suck it all up and take it. Maybe it's because if we vote for a different political party the faces in government change but their policies stay the same.

It also amazes me that people on the whole are not at all interested in this subject. They'll be the one's wondering how it came to them having a camera in their front room.
Dude, where British, we love getting fucked over by the goverment and the only thing we ever do is whinge. Thank fuck I'm moving aboard. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

With reference to my left wing Nazi comment, I was using it in the same context as safety nazi.

This government are probably as authoritarian as Nazi germany, if not more so. So, left wing Nazi is fairly appropriate!
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