Cheap Manchester race series

Itchy · Super Spammer Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Karma :

Are there any cheap manchester races? , I remember talking on the chat room to G about it where there was a series of racing on cheapo 500 twins where the CB500 (and the CB500SS which is a cheat) were raced , and there were tons of GS500s.

Do any such racers exist in Manchester and where? , I think I could just about manage to get a CB500 , mod it for some slowish racing , and if I like it maybe trick up a 400 and go for something bigger , like Aly Bayley (that guy had 9 NC30s and 4 NC35s , and sold them all cept one to keep racing) , hence the need for it to be cheap , since I'm not really wealthy enough to go get the latest ZX10R and quite frankly don't want to be going after ZX10Rs on probably an old FZR1000.

Anythoughts?

Ta
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Me and another minitwinner were right up the arse of a Fireblade on slicks around cadwell (until he bottled it ran off at coppice); so that FZR might not be too far fetched.

You're fairly lucky for tracks, but you're still going to have to travel a bit.

There is a CB500 cup run with new era. Only allowed CB500s.
Yamaha Past Masters run with Bemsee are quite cheap. As is the ducati 600cc thingy? Think that may be new era again, but not sure.

Have you done any trackdays?
I'd get some track time in first and see how your lap times compare.

As I've gone on about before - I managed an 11th place with 35hp against 72hp rivals at Brands Indy; power isn't everything!

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Gazdaman · I did a trackday!!! Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Karma :

A lot people say that "Unless you're at the top of fast group don't bother."

MZ racers go around in inters. Fast group is down to bike choice aswell as ability.

Gaz

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Itchy · Super Spammer Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Karma :

Hmm thanks,

MZ racing has semi whet me apetite for this now, I can corner pretty well , and have been known on familiar roads to leave bigger beefier bikes to eat my dust.

Tracks sans cars , other bikes and licence risk I reckon I can take it up a few notches.

Ta
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Gazdaman · I did a trackday!!! Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Karma :

An MZ with a 17" wheel conversion off a TZR125r/SZR660 apparently can carry better corner speed than an RS125.

You've certainly seen me go round the outside of people on the MZ even with those concrete ching shen tyres.

Gaz

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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

https://www.biketrackdays.co.uk/dates/dates.html
Would be a good place to start Smile

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Also see the Sticky at the top of this section.

Trackdays are relatively a lot cheaper than racing for more time, so personally I'd advice sticking to them until you feel you can get more out of real-racing.

Trackdays 'entry fees' - From £50 - £250 depending on time of year and track for 6/7 x 20 minute sessions.

Racing entry fees - From £135 - £235 for 4 x 10 minute races over two days. Also get a ten minute and a 3 lap practice session.
Racing does get better for practice days where 7 x 20 minute sessions does actually mean 20 minutes pretty much, with a lot less red flags etc.

veeeffarr · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Jul 2004 Karma :

I'm thinking of taking my GS to a trackday on a related note, is this a good idea or will I be laughed all the way back home?

Cheers,

T

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Be all the better when you go around the outside of people on their shiny GSXRs Smile

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Seen CB500 cup riders kicking arse in fast groups before.

The only ones likely to be laughing at you are the slow riders on those GSXR1000s that have to have something to feel good about, so get past on the straight Smile

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(Itchy: Note edit to my last post, by the way)

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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

I've been lucky in mostly riding fairly sorted machines on track, it's definitely nice if you can get a fully sorted one - that way it's your limits, not one specific area of the bike's that you're pushing.

Generally it's more cost efffective to buy a pre-sorted bike than altering a road bike.

Keir · World Chat Champion Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Karma :

nc30 have approx 56-58bhp standard. 60-62bhp once running perfect with exhauset, filter(less) and carbs setup properly with bigger jets. Still..... nc30 sounds good, if you ever get one and do brands, let me know!
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Itchy · Super Spammer Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Karma :

So in really to go racing all I have to do is turn up at a track put on my gay zip up two piece bring me ACU gold lid , tape up the glass bits of the bike remove mirrors ,before racing

pay my money , register , and start to fly round the track? (I have no van or money for one so I'd have to ride there and back).

its really that simple? (iffy since if I wreck the bike = no transport home!).
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Some people do that, but if you can get a van/trailer, it's much reccomended.

Also need to lockwire bits, have a bellypan on 4 strokes and maybe a few other bits.

As said, I'd still try a few trackdays first and see how you find - get some lap times and see how you are doing compared to the back - runners in your chosen class.
Relatively a fair bit cheaper for more time and less spent beforehand.
There may be someone local to you that could give you and a bike a lift there.

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Itchy · Super Spammer Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Karma :

Blimey even cheap trackdays are comparatively expensive.

gotta get paid more, before I'll dip me toe in , the ACU would be shocked at the state some of the bikes I've ridden on the road (but have passed MOT) ,
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