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| Wooly R6 |
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 Posted: 18:42 - 08 Feb 2007 Post subject: Global Warming my Rectum |
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If global warming is warming the planet so much, why does it still snow!!!!  ____________________ R6 has been sold - 2004 Honda VFR VTEC now sold too - no bike at the moment |
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History records is being cold enough to freeze the Thames river over so you could walk from one bank to the other. They even built a bonfire on the ice.
Today the pipes didn't even freeze up on the site I was working. I remember that being a common occurance every winter but I haven't seen it happen in recent years. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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 alexhornet Nitrous Nuisance

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What natural emissions? Plants? Animals? Volcanoes? Sulphur Springs? Natural occurances of Co2 are fairly balanced afaik, and I can't personally see industrial Co2 emissions being insignificant, nearly every country has millions of cars, numerous power plants, industrial furnaces and whatnot, each burning huge amounts of carbon based substances, and apparently the entire earth's reserve of oil is running low, so how can that be insignificant, it's also sustained 24/7.
You're confusing quantity with balance, naturally it's balanced, add a (relatively) small amount extra and over time it's gonna tip the scales. |
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Hi
Man made CO2 emissions make up about 3% of total CO2 emissions. The rest are natural.
Sure you can argue that the natural ones are balanced. They are absorbed by plants, but the plants thrive in a CO2 rich environment, absorbing more.
But you said the planet doesn't naturally pump out the millions of tonnes of Co2 and Nitrogen Oxides, when it certainly does.
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| wilbur wrote: |
But climate change denial has been rebuffed.
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Far from it. There seems to be far less acceptance of climate change theories now than there was a decade ago.
Either way, true or not, we still are far from having evidence to confirm or deny the theories.
| Phoenix wrote: | However humans are estimated to produce just under a kilo of carbon dioxide per day through breathing. You're average car is about a kilo every 3miles? And that's your average economical car. Multiply that by all the vehicles in the world, the power stations, the furnaces and I think you have a fairly serious balance issue. |
There are plenty of other animals respiring. There are large amounts of CO2 emitted from volcanos and the like.
| Phoenix wrote: | And plants may thrive in Co2 rich environments, however surely they can still only absorb the same amount as before, animals don't. There's also a lot less plantlife than there used to be. |
No, they will grow rapidly and absorb more CO2.
Agreed on the less plantlife, although the only bit that really matters is fresh plant life. A grown tree just sitting there is not absorbing much CO2, just storing the carbon. Although you do have the issue that the rotting vegitation could give off methane which is rather worse.
All the best
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Warming of the Earth effects different places, differently.
A temperature decrease of 1 degree Fahrenheit at the equator is equal to a 12 degree increase at the polar ice caps.
Now this might not seem like a problem because no one lives at the poles, the problem is that this can cause polar ice caps to melt, and while it will not effect a lot of people, it will still flood large areas of America (New York, San Fransisco, Florida), Bangladesh will be completely flooded off the map, many many islands, such as those in the Caribbean islands will be completely flooded. Theres many other places but I forget them.
There are large amounts of emissions caused by volcanoes, but there aren't that many that are active any more, most of the active volcanoes are under water, which is less of an issue to us emissions wise.
Due to large areas of tropical rain forest being cut down daily, at one point in South America they were cutting down an area the size of Wales, daily. We are now suffering because there is not as much plant life available to take some of the carbon out of the atmosphere. Which we are now suffering from.
Granted that the Earth is on a natural cycle of temperature increase (do some research into the Milankovitch Cycles), this is a theory, backed by evidence showing that the Earths temperature increases naturally, until it reaches a point of extreme heat, and then drops into an ice age.
We are on the point of increasing temperatures, but we are increasing a lot faster than it was predicted, and so, we are effectively accelerating towards an ice age, I'm not so sure thats a good thing.
We are able to do something about emissions, however the problem really is that America, and China, and also Australia are refusing to help out, with these being the largest contributors, there isn't much we can do till they stop.
We did manage to fix the hole in the ozone layer by working at the CFC problem, who's to say we can't undo some of the damage caused by carbon emissions, if not de-accelerate the effects.
I'd recommend watching Al Gores - An Inconvenient Truth, he presents a list of very good points without trying to force you to take his view. It's interesting to say the least. ____________________ Past: 55 Sym Jet, 91 ZZR250, 03 NSR125R. Present: 97 ER-5.
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| ncrn wrote: | We are able to do something about emissions, however the problem really is that America, and China, and also Australia are refusing to help out, with these being the largest contributors, there isn't much we can do till they stop. |
And as they do not believe there is a problem, they are hardly going to stop
| ncrn wrote: | We did manage to fix the hole in the ozone layer by working at the CFC problem |
The ozone layer hole around NZ was found, rather than known to be created, and still exists with a changed size. While the move to non CFC refrigerants is an easy one (virtually no real costs), it is not certain that these had caused the hole. For a start there is the issue of how heavier than air gases rose up to the ozone layer to damage it.
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i have 100% proof off global warming.
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| ColdInsomnia wrote: | Whilst global warming can be argued by pseudo-intellectuals, dependency on fossil fuels is something that must and will have to change, that is a fact that cannot be denied |
Would tend to agree. Fossil fuels are a finite resource (although there have been claims that oil is continuously being created, tend to take that with a massive pinch of salt). However we do still have very large reserves, just that the price goes up as they become harder to extract.
| ColdInsomnia wrote: | Sure, global warming COULD be wrong. But do we really want to take the risk? If we were to change to renewable energy tomorrow, and find out in 50 years time that global warming was a complete farce, there would be no problem. |
Possibly true, as long as in the mean time you are prepared for far higher fuel prices and destruction of local industry.
| vee wrote: | If a cow produces as much co2 as a landrover, i'd hate to see what came out the arse end of a T-Rex  |
Don't know, but solid enough that archeologists are still finding it lying round.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 19 years, 11 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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