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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 28 Aug 2003    Post subject: 20 Limit for London Reply with quote

Hi

Just to frighten a few of you Londoners, look what you nutter of a deputy mayor is suggesting:-

https://www.thisislondon.com/traffic/articles/6392237?source=Evening%20Standard

All the best

Keith
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paulcdb
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 28 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

What they said, and what they mean...

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The Transport for London figures reveal that more than 20 people are knocked down every 24 hours in the capital, mostly by speeding drivers.


so by intruducing a 20mph limit will suddenly END people from "speeding"? lol, you know these people don't drive... what they mean is "by intruducing a 20mph limit, we can earn lots more money from people doing 30mph"

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"Ideally, we would have 20mph across London now with certain roads able to opt out and have 30mph. We are starting with residential roads and the rest of London will follow."


"Ideally, we would have an "unlimited income", but instead we will start with "taxing" the residents and then use the money to roll out our "money machine" across London and create an "unlimited income"

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The TfL study shows London has a far worse pedestrian casualty rate than the rest of Britain. More than 100 in every 100,000 Londoners are hurt yearly - nearly half as bad again as the national average.


"The TfL study shows London has far more pedestrians who can't be bothered looking before crossing the road."

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The TfL figures reveal that more than one in 10 pedestrian accidents involve 10 to 14-yearolds and accident rates in inner London are twice as bad as those for outer London. The most dangerous time on the roads is between 3pm and 7pm.


"we'll use the spin of young kids being run over to cloud over the fact we are about to rake in vast amounts of money from out "cash machines"
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Jon
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 28 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

They've introduced some 20mph limits near Hampton Court (outskirts of London), these roads are good for 50-60mph easily Confused

I can't see anyone staying at these limits cause it's a struggle at 30. Introduce thoughs square humps, they slow down cars but bikers can shoot through the middle of them!
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GFK
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PostPosted: 23:45 - 28 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Makes you wonder what train of thought these people are on?

"How can we speed up traffic flow in Central London? Oh I know, lets lower the speed limit! Do I get a pay rise now?? Nah its no problem, we'll just put a bit more tax on fuel to cover it. Nobody will even notice."
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solamanda
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PostPosted: 09:10 - 29 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

its stupid, 20mph limit and trains that don't work!
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Bendy
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 29 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think taking the limit on residential streets down is fair enough, but it's got be done on an individual basis, not a blanket thing.

20 zones where there are houses and kids and cars parked all down the roads and blind junctions - fair enough.

20 zone on a 3 laner... bit silly.
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Major_Grooves
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 29 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

They should have a 20mph limit in the parts of London I don't know so I can ride slowly and try and look for street names and direction signs. Neutral
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Bendy
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 29 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naaah, dont read signs. Instinct dear boy, instincts and exquisite wits. Very Happy
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Korn
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 29 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speed limits need to rise after midnight, I mean ffs there is nobody about and they still say you should potter down the motorway at 70. Same with residential roads, I can understand a 20mph limit when the local primary school has just chucked out but at 3am on a Saturday night? Have a laugh Rolling Eyes
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Bendy
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 29 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very, very true.
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 29 Aug 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Think if you look on the Safespeed web site (https://www.safespeed.org.uk/percentages.html) you will find that a higher percentage of those killed / injured are killed in 20 limits than in 70 limits.

All the best

Keith
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