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MarkJ
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 25 Mar 2007    Post subject: Sunday Drivers on Twisties Reply with quote

I went over Snake Pass today for a bit of a hoon, but as usual there were the Sunday Driver brigade out doing the breakneck speed of 25mph (it's a blanket 50 Rolling Eyes).

Now, does anyone on here actually know anyone who drives like this, and do they have a reason for it? They create a massive queue behind them and never think to let people pass them. They only seem to drive like this on twisties though, as once they're into residential areas they're quite happy to break 30 and 40 limits! These drivers really do wind me up. Fair enough if they're carrying a live animal or a bootful of C4, but I highly doubt this is the case for every Sunday driver.

There's a 3-mile NSL single carriageway which I use to get to Uni and work every day, and ONCE since September I've been able to do 60mph all the way. It's not particularly twisty yet these people feel the need to do 30-40mph down even the straights! Thing is, when they get to the 30 limit at the end they keep on doing 40! Evil or Very Mad. I have no trouble doing 60 on this road in my 1litre Fiesta.

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PostPosted: 18:09 - 25 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're on a bike, its not really difficult to overtake is it if a car is holding you up? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 25 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stu_666 wrote:
You're on a bike, its not really difficult to overtake is it if a car is holding you up? Rolling Eyes


From my recollections, I don't think I was ever taught to overtake on a bend...

You *might* be able to get away with it on an open right hander with loads of visibility... but if its double white lines then you're scuppered.

He did say it was on a twisty road.
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 25 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've obviously never been on Snake Pass. It's fine in the open areas, but there aren't many, most corners are blind and in close proximity to each other. Also these drivers don't get one or two cars behind them they get a dozen or more so that takes a while to just get to the front.

Edit: Above written to Stu_666.

MarJay's right, it's mostly double whites and when it isn't there's either a bend coming up or traffic on the other side.
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 25 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair play mate, did'nt realise that (and no I've never been on it Wink ).

Best time of the day for doing roads like that are early morning whilst they still in bed. Is a pain in the arse getting up early but worth it.
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 25 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I agree, partly my fault for out out mid-afternoon Smile

Here's a link to the video --> Clicky. Watch it from 8:30, the traffic they get stuck behind is actually very light and it still takes them a while to get past.
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 25 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Id agree. On a rideout yesterday, just on the way to the bike cafe, i had to leap frog 5 cars held up by 20mph car on slightly bendy NSL roads.

But for me the daft bit was someone holding up 8 cars on a fast NSL road with clear visibility.

However it did give me good opportunity to practice my overtaking at speeds lower than you would normally have to do on those sort of roads.

There were then one or two similar situations in wales.

In particular on the way back, on the road from welshpool to shrewsbury, there was a 40 car tailback for one of these 40mph in a nsl individuals.

Fortunately, I met them when the road straightened out into a very long straight, with very little oncoming traffic so I cleared the lot quite quickly even though I dont normally overtake in the dark.

If I was in/on a vehicle which could accelerate that well, I would have found it a lot more annoying though.

I think its people who only usually drive in 30zones, and just arent willing to change their driving style for the conditions.

I think if i were holding up 10 cars, id be inclined to pull over to let them pass. I know that some caravan owners do this, and i think its to be commended.
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 25 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stu_666 wrote:
Fair play mate, did'nt realise that (and no I've never been on it Wink ).

Best time of the day for doing roads like that are early morning whilst they still in bed. Is a pain in the arse getting up early but worth it.


i agree, bazza once got me on an early start rideout to aberystwyth and the roads were lovely

however, i have not managed to convince my rideout buddies that early starts on a weekend are worth it.
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 25 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snake pass is double whitelines everywhere its hard to overtake there and risky there are at best 4 overtaking bits , up to the resevoir,

what you were out on the snake? , shite I went on the A675 , couple weeks time maybe?
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 25 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not worth moaning about, it's same on every road in the country, they have as much right to be on there, if you want to go fast round corners, get yourself to a track.
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 25 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarkJ wrote:
Here's a link to the video --> Clicky


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PostPosted: 19:31 - 25 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reading further,

the trick to Snake pass is to go there early or in winter when it is abandoned, night is also excellent
to hit Snake pass, but risky however. Watch out for small furry animals , if you are brave take Strines
Moor at night thats proper scary.

Anyway, if you have to hit the snake mid day , stick near the start and try wait it out, ok more sunday
drivers may have passed, but when I turn round at Strines and wait quite often you'll get a clear gap
to hit it as hard as you want.
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 25 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarkJ wrote:
Yeah I agree, partly my fault for out out mid-afternoon Smile

Here's a link to the video --> Clicky. Watch it from 8:30, the traffic they get stuck behind is actually very light and it still takes them a while to get past.


£20 Says the man walking with the bird at the start is gay, but she doesn't know it yet...

The amount of cars that do 40 in a 60 and 40 in a 30 is crazy round here, the good thing is Norfolk/Suffolk is flat so you can see to overtake Razz
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 25 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did want to have a ride over snakes pass.....but I think I will give it a miss now that I have seen that vid, road looks ok but too many restrictions. Looks like on a bad run you are spending all your time just trying to make small amounts of headway.

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PostPosted: 21:09 - 25 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

TOLD YA SO!!!!!!!

Its a crap road ridden by would-be hero's willing to risk a head on accident just to make up a cars length.
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 25 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its people like my mum, in their 60s and mad, normally used to going on the same roads all the time.

She dare not go on motorways/dual carriage ways and the one time I got a lift off her recently, she waited till all the gaps were gone and then pulled out in front of a taxi causing him to emergency stop.

She always has a new car, but its always some 1 litre crap.

Ohh yeah, she even manage to cop some speeding points though in a 30 zone and decided to blame me. Until I pointed out the date and the location...
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 25 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beauty spot type roads are best avoided on Sundays.
They might have gran in the back who gets scared at 40mph

Best to just take it in your stride and pass when you can, they are enjoying a day out - enjoy yours and don't get wound up.
Some people like to slow down and take in the scenery - nothing wrong with that - some bikers even do it too Cool Exclamation
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 25 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people on a sunday drive out have no idea that other road users are even behind them, and a lot probably wouldn't care if they did. They would probably shout "young hooligans"at people in their rear view mirrors.

Best just to get past them when safe, and admire the scenery (which is one reason you're there) when you have to sit behind them.

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I think if i were holding up 10 cars, id be inclined to pull over to let them pass. I know that some caravan owners do this, and i think its to be commended.


Being an occasional caravan tower, I do keep an eye on the queue behind, although I often find people drive slower than me, so I try to leave a gap in front of me for overtakers to slip in to. Once I was hammering it down a country road with kids in the car and caravan in tow, and a car driver behind kept trying to pass at stupid places. I pulled over as soon as I had chance, he passed, I rejoined and soon caught him up. He ended up slowing me down! I guessed he was doing it on purpose, so I returned the favour by pretending I was looking for an overtaking opportunity! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 07:02 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johnny GSX-R wrote:
TOLD YA SO!!!!!!!


lol...... yep you did
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