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TheDonUK
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Drivers Tailgating L-Plate Riders Reply with quote

The other day i saw something which made me a bit angry, coming off of sheperds bush a newish looking rider with a spanking new CG125/YBR125 with clean L-Plates was just exiting sheperds bush on the dual carriageway stint to the A40, im a few cars back, when some wanker in an Audi A3 or somesuch undertakes a couple of car and then procesedes to slot in right behind the learner on the 125, if he was in such a rush there was pleanty of space to under take the bike also... but no... he was in an Audi and this rider is on a small bike with l plates...

This guy is fuckin inches from this poor guys rear wheel, you can see how nervous he is constantly checking the mirrors trying to find room to move over, but other car drivers arent budging...

I saw fuckin red, i dispatch on a 125 and know the feeling when you dont have the power to escape nutters like this, anyway i have undertaken the same cars the Audi did and then overtake the both of them and slot in next to the learner, and begin to gradually slow myself and in the process the audi giving the 125 the breathing room to move out the way, at which point i also move over, and then in the red mist procede to tailgate him for a goodwhile with main beams on...

Now my actions were wrong blah blah, no excuse blah blah... but why do these cunts think they can bully new riders if i could have i would have dragged him out of his Audi POS and beaten him with that guys shiney L-plates


This post has no real purpose other than for me to vent at assholes like the above, who when i was a learned i thankfully never had to deal with, i can only imagine what that learner was thinking of the whole situation... including my crazy-ish actions...
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got tailgated by a renault clio on way home from college today. I wasn't going slow, was doing about 65 ish. So i gradually slowed down and in the end the driver overtook me.

Is cool what ya did to try and get eh asshole off the back of the learner Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It ain't just L Platers that get the grief d00d... I got busted fer speeding a month or so back, and (as I'm on the 2yrs - 6 points crap) have been sticking to the limits ever since... On a CB500 so by no means a "small" bike... and I'm constantly getting idiots right up my back wheel, then overtaking me dangerously.
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

After all that i spouted i just got back from a ride and found myself having to consciously tell myself to back off from the learner driver in the outside lane of the a40... what a hypocrite eh Razz

Seirously though i just ran up a bit hot on him, then backed right off... but what happened the other day with that audi i was surpirised at how much red mist i saw... when they cut me up now they usually just get the wanker gesture, i cant be arsed, and besides it spoils your ride. But i could feel the fuckin fear from that learner rider from 5 cars back...

I hope that dident put him off biking...
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once had a go at a scooter rider who was having a right whinge at a woman on a new 125 with shiny new L-Plates on. He started having a go at me saying 'But did you see what she did...?' to which I said 'No' but it doesn't matter, she is plainly a new rider and will make stupid mistakes as every new rider will. You have to cut them some slack. It really made me see red, the poor learner was really shaken up by this fat old suited guy on a scooter having a go... Grr Evil or Very Mad

I know not all scooter riders are like that but anyone that reguarly commutes into London will know the sort of person I am on about!
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't matter whether it is a 125 or 600, cars tailgating bikes is just plain annoying. It happens too regularly with me, where I can't pass someone in front and I get some dick who plants themselves a couple of feet from my back wheel. The best way to get them to back off is to just touch the back brake pedal to activate the brake light, without brushing off any speed. That usually works for me but if it doesn't I look for a spot to undertake/overtake the car in front - not clever but sometimes unavoidable. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got tailgated the other day, for what I can honestly say was the first time in many years of riding. I know it isn't in the highway code, but a quick stab at the rear brake made him back off, which was pleasing.

edit: just read headlamps post which was pretty much the same. meh.


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PostPosted: 16:17 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not so long ago some chavs in their Corsa thing were tailgating me for quite a while. They started flashing their lights at me and they stuck full beam on so I couldnt see shit in my mirrors.

This was on city roads aswell and I wasnt going slow by any means. I really dont want a chav in a car right up my ass as they dont have the best of driving ability.

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PostPosted: 19:22 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i saw an interesting battle on the way home from work today between a top of the range newish silver bentley, and a silver vectra

the thing that i first noticed, was them both switching lanes at a similar time, which resulted in the vectra nearly hitting the bentley, as he may have been in his blind spot

or this may have been to stop the bentley overtaking

this may have been the start of the duel, or i may have joined it halfway through

The bentley then drove on the vectras arse about half a foot away at 30- 40 mph.

The vectra retaliated by stamping on the brakes a few times, but bentley also braked, and just kept tailgating aggressively.

A little later i found myself between them, not realiseding the feud was still on, and had the bentley trying to get at the vectra through me. I pulled into a side road to let the nutter past, and then gave chase out of curiosity.

They then went onto the dudley bypass which is a 40 but most ppl drive at 60.

More aggressive tailgating and brake stamping from about 60 to about 40, with the vectra in front and the huge bentley behind.

It was quite odd to watch. I guess they were at it for a good mile, but they then split at the round about that i came off at.

Quite odd
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Giving the bars a shake makes the rear wheel skimmy in a disconcerting manner to any onlookers. Looks like you're about to fall off, this usually makes them back away.

I have slowed down so much I actually stopped when someone was tailgating me before (just backing off the throttle in 5mph increments). I then accelerated as hard as I could, right up to the speed I was doing before, this seemed to get the message across.
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't fuckin stand it Evil or Very Mad I just ride at 20-30, even in NSL, then when i pull back up at lights etc, just filter to be in front of them, repeat process then after 5 or so minutes, promptly feck off with a nice departing hand gesture Angelic
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had some idiot with a trailer stoping me from overtaking today, i was entering a dual carriage way when i saw a car with a trailer first thoughts being therell be going slow which he was about 50 mph fair enough after afew hundred yards of me being behind him i decide to overtake so i cheak to see if its clear then move out to over take i see this old guy look at me with his window down obivouly hearing my nsr125 engine high reving to get past him. So as i start to pull away from his window the old guy thinks its funny to speed up also soon enough we are doing 70 mph then 80 mph and i just dont hav the power after to over take and he starts laughing at me so all i could do was slow down steadly and pull back in the lane behine him. I was so annoyed and embarressed.
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i used to have an offroad suzuki samurai (jacked up a foot with large dumper tyres)
someone was tailgating me (as if i'd be intimidated in a motor that i crash for fun!)
i stopped in a nsl and tried to reverse onto his bonnet
the speedy git soon backed up then!
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whether on the bike or in the car, tailgaiters really worry me. I tap the brakes as a drive/ride along to try to tell them that I think they're too close. Sometimes they back off - they probably didn't realise or were starting to slow down already - and sometimes it just makes it worse.

I got lost in the car on Thursday night after dropping my friend off at home. I was driving through a quiet-ish suburb of Leeds, it was getting dark, driving along a main road littered with traffic lights and junctions, and I was trying to read the road signs. I wasn't exactly pootling along, must've been at least at the speed limit, if not slightly over. And this battered ol' Fiat loaded with (very young) Asian kids came racing up to my boot and stamped on the brakes at the last minute; they flashed their lights at me and backed off a little... then they did it again, and again. I really thought they were going to hit me. I couldn't keep an eye on the road ahead and on them and I was trying to find a quick exit but they wouldn't let up. So I put my hand on the horn and kept it there. I don't know what I was hoping to achieve, perhaps a little attention or some witnesses in case something did happen but then they suddenly took a side road and that was the last of it. I was rather glad to get home and out of the car.
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Re: Drivers Tailgating L-Plate Riders Reply with quote

TheDonUK wrote:
.....then overtake the both of them and slot in next to the learner, and begin to gradually slow myself and in the process the audi giving the 125 the breathing room to move out the way, at which point i also move over....


A very similar thing happened to me when I was riding a CG125 during my pre-DAS riding. (A470 north from Merthyr towards Storey Arms for anyone who knows the area).

From memory it was a BMW tailgating me, and making me VERY nervous for my safety, when a sportsbike overtakes the car, pulls alongside me, then slows down forcing the car to back off.
The Beemer turned off soon after, and the sportsbike pulls ahead of me and away into the distance.
I don't suppose I'll ever know who that rider was, but Thumbs Up Karma to him
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was on my 50 and people tried that, I just did the brake light thing and gave them the finger if they kept being arseholes. If they kept it up even more I'd just pull over and let them pass.
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy levitt wrote:
soon enough we are doing 70 mph then 80 mph and i just dont hav the power after to over take and he starts laughing at me so all i could do was slow down steadly and pull back in the lane behine him. I was so annoyed and embarressed.


IMO best thing you can do is to slow a bit, give him the finger and watch for him hitting the brakes, then overtake and fook off sharpish, you could get some distance on an NSR before he builds his speed back up(and it won't half give you a rush er, i mean confidence Cool ) Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I get tailgated in the car, when I have to stop at lights or a junction, I 'accidently' put my car in reverse and rev very loudly. Looking at their faces in the mirror when they see the reverse lights come on, and they're 5 cm away from my bumper and can't go anywhere is hilarious! Twisted Evil

Shame you can't do that on a bike though.
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get it Sad if they come too close what i normally do is flash the brake lights a few times, for some reason they nudge back abit or i go along and slam on the brakes so they know to fook off back.
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to get this all the time in the company vans. I was so fed up with it I started braking late and hard all the time. With a huge metal tail lift between me and them, they got the message. Evil or Very Mad

In the end, it's their fault if they crashed into me as they were too close. Twisted Evil


I wouldn't like to experience it on a bike. Not at all.


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PostPosted: 12:31 - 27 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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when a sportsbike overtakes the car, pulls alongside me, then slows down forcing the car to back off.


Yeah I do this all the time if I see a bike being tailgated, the trick is if they don't back off you then ride in the middle of the road and blip the throttle to throw crap up from the road.

A few stones bouncing off the bonnet or windscreen soon gets the message across, and the fact you are willing to take the heat off someone else makes them think twice about doing anything Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: 13:31 - 27 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

About a year ago I had some arsehole of a lorry driver right up my arse (oo, beg your pardon) on the Holloway road, because I was travelling 30 in a 30. He thought he was really clever.
The reason I was doing 30 is because just ahead was about 10 police bikes watching traffic, they saw what he was doing, and as I went passed one gave me the nod and then flagged him over to the side of the road. Hahahhaha Ive never been so happy to see police before.
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 27 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

this winds me up too, my girlfriend is learning on my old CG so if we go out for a ride i'll always ride behind her on my FZ6, that way if anyones following me too close it doesn't affect her.
If they do it to me i'll slow down to about 1/2 the speed limit then shoot off and catch her up, not many seem to catch up with me again either!

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PostPosted: 16:10 - 27 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonehead wrote:
About a year ago I had some arsehole of a lorry driver right up my arse (oo, beg your pardon) on the Holloway road, because I was travelling 30 in a 30. He thought he was really clever.
The reason I was doing 30 is because just ahead was about 10 police bikes watching traffic, they saw what he was doing, and as I went passed one gave me the nod and then flagged him over to the side of the road. Hahahhaha Ive never been so happy to see police before.


That's quality. I hope they threw the book at him.
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 27 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jull wrote:
If I get tailgated in the car, when I have to stop at lights or a junction, I 'accidently' put my car in reverse and rev very loudly. Looking at their faces in the mirror when they see the reverse lights come on, and they're 5 cm away from my bumper and can't go anywhere is hilarious! Twisted Evil

Shame you can't do that on a bike though.


Ahh, but what you can do, if there isn't any other traffic (Or if you don't care), is just simply sit there, even when the light goes green, and just wait... observe him getting all pissed off that the light is green and you aren't moving (He's obviously in a rush if he's driving up your arse), and as soon as the light hits amber just speed away, it'll be red before he has time to react, and he'll have to sit there for another cycle; by the time he does manage to leave you'll be long gone. Very Happy
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