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 steveh World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 18:44 - 30 Apr 2007 Post subject: car test advice. |
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Well, ive decided to take the plunge, and get myself a car, ive been offered a civic 1.5 from my sister in law, ill probably get it for around 300, its in decent nick, but will have a decent look at it when i have the cash.
Now, just wondering how many lessons did you all do? was it easyer being on the road with a bike, (ive been on 3 years)
As im a tight arse i dont want to spend shite loads on lessons, i already know how to drive, its just the observations i may struggle with.
i know i need to do another theory but is there anything else i need to do?
My full bike licence does count as a Prov car licence?
I have no real interest in cars, so ive never really looked deeply into the procedure of it all, going to get some theory books of my mate and get that out of the way for now.
any advice would be great.
Steve. ____________________ Current : 06 Zx10r, 07 Wr450f SM, 74 850 norton commando, 63 bsa b40, 1962 Triton 650, 67 Triumph Tr6r, 1955 Triton 750, 1978 TY250E. |
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It took me four attempts and about 2K spent - and that was after 6 or 7 years full bike licence and riding daily. I think it's far harder than the bike test as you can't hide any mistakes when he's sat alongside you, plus maneouvers are total arse.  ____________________ 18:54:48 Rob Fzs: jews don't give away stuff for free
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Misc has done a similar thread in Auntie BCF.
It took 2 failed tests and 30+ lessons to pass. ____________________ Current : MSX 125 Past : CBR 900RR Monkeybike : c50 LAC : ZXR750 H2 : FZR600 : ZX7R P3 : YW100 : TRX850: Trophy 900 T309 : GSXR 600 L0: Monkeybike : XJ6S Whosthedaddy |
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I have done about 15 lessons and will be taking my test on the 22nd.
I am sure I will fail—I cannot achieve any sort of consistency because it bores me to death. I just don't enjoy waddling around in a big fat metal box.  ____________________ the warped one: This is a follow up from the thread 'my willy hurts' |
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12 Lessons and the test on the 13th, passed first time.  ____________________ Andy Sez....
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2 lessons, passed  ____________________ carbon bling |
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bombing around a field since i was 9, became a chav for a year and a bit so 14/15 i was on the road... stopped being a chav at 15.
passed first time, no lessons
all i need now is a car. ____________________ Blue_SV650S wrote: it was a sh1te wheelie, but it proves that he can get it up in 3rd and can do angles. In summery, mattsprattuk is a gobby little sh1tebag, dopehead tw4t, but sadly for all of us, he probably isn't THAT full of sh1te!!
Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith
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when I got banned on the bike and had to do an extended I took my car test 1st having never done it before (when you do an extended it's the 1'st test you do regardless of what vehicle you got banned with) and pissed it.  ____________________ If you dont like the way that I ride.......Stop trying to keep up!!! |
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| Skudd wrote: | You get a lot of bullshitters who say how few lessons that they have taken. Ignore them. |
I had 4 lessons, passed first time, about 5 or 6 minors.
I had 2 instructors, both were crap. The first one wouldnt let me change gear in the second lesson, even though I could do it confidently and easily. He also refused to let me go above 30. So he got the sack.
The next one wasnt too bad for the first lesson, but on the second one he got very sarcastic and chopsy. I wasn't having that so he was sacked too.
We bought a nice 03 Clio 1.2 to replace the rustbucket astra that I had previously been driving. My dad spent about 2.5 weeks teaching me to drive and I passed. Then we sold the Clio on for more than we paid for it. If I hadn't had messed about with those jokers before it would've cost me only the cost of the driving test.
Some people give driving instructors hundreds of pounds. They're quite literally being taken for a ride.
Oh, and I learned to drive properly, including sequential gear changing (even though the powers that be frown on this, which tbh is stupid) none of this block changing rubbish. ____________________ Present: GS650 Katana - Getting ready for summer touring!
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[quote="Yoshi"]
We bought a nice 03 Clio 1.2 to replace the rustbucket astra that I had previously been driving. My dad spent about 2.5 weeks teaching me to drive and I passed. Then we sold the Clio on for more than we paid for it. If I hadn't had messed about with those jokers before it would've cost me only the cost of the driving test.
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So you did have 2.5 weeks of lessons then? ( in my book I would call that an intensive course, glad your Dad was able to teach you correctly as most can't)
Yes, I agree there are alot of instructors who wont let a pupil move at their own pace and there are alot of instructors who rip pupils off. I hope none of my pupils ever accuse me of that. Take this week for egsample. Picked up a young lad who said that he hadn't driven a car before except a mates once in a carpark. After 20 mins of going through the basics it became apparent his knowledge is far beyond that of a little go around a carpark. So I have had him doing manouvres, which he has ripped through, just need to take out a few bad habbits he has got in his normal driving, then within 10 hours he will be test ready. I think I have been fair to him and he is happy.
As regards to the sequential gear changing......... most bikers can do it and transfare that skill to driving a car, I was taught that way many years ago too. The reason why they have changed it and powers that be prefere the block changing is that many people were just putting the clutch in , keeping it in while they went down each gear, so effectively they were just coasting and not using the gears in the manner that most drivers, who are able, use sequential gears. Both are equally correct if done properly. sequential gear changes do put you in the right gear at the right time, but many can't learn that and to teach them that way may add another10-15 hours teaching and so creates that ripped off feeling again. I show the way that they want you to drive on the test and to those who I feel are able to take in the information quickly and use it properly I will teach other methods that are correct but can be fround on in some quarters.
Like I said there are some bullshitters around when talking about how many hours they have had whether it be paid or unpaid hours. ____________________ Famous last words of Humpty Dumpty. " Stop pushing me "
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| Skudd wrote: | So you did have 2.5 weeks of lessons then? ( in my book I would call that an intensive course, glad your Dad was able to teach you correctly as most can't)
Like I said there are some bullshitters around when talking about how many hours they have had whether it be paid or unpaid hours. |
Yeah I did do 2.5 weeks training, I'm not saying I had a quick spin round a car park before jumped into the test car and passed. I've heard people saying things like that. I know I wouldn't have passed without my dad teaching me, it probably was around 10-14 hours or so in total (plus my mum taking me out as a 'learner' and falling asleep )
Still pretty good of my dad as he isn't an instructor. I suppose alot of people's parent's wouldnt be able to. Some of the driving I've seen from that generation is shocking (girlfriends mum going down the opposite direction lane at traffic lights, when the different traffic directions are separated by kerb/pavement things! Also seen her slamming up a gear instead of down, whilst cruising along at 40-50 )
Yeah I had been on the bikes for almost two years before driving, so I can see why sequential changing comes naturally to me. I've tried to block change but just can't get into it. I miss the engine braking. ____________________ Present: GS650 Katana - Getting ready for summer touring!
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 Posted: 12:35 - 05 May 2007 Post subject: Re: car test advice. |
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| steveh wrote: | Well, ive decided to take the plunge, and get myself a car, ive been offered a civic 1.5 from my sister in law, ill probably get it for around 300, its in decent nick, but will have a decent look at it when i have the cash.
Now, just wondering how many lessons did you all do? was it easyer being on the road with a bike, (ive been on 3 years)
As im a tight arse i dont want to spend shite loads on lessons, i already know how to drive, its just the observations i may struggle with.
i know i need to do another theory  but is there anything else i need to do?
My full bike licence does count as a Prov car licence?
I have no real interest in cars, so ive never really looked deeply into the procedure of it all, going to get some theory books of my mate and get that out of the way for now.
any advice would be great.
Steve. |
Well, I started with the instructor I passed with in December and did 2 hour lessons every week untill I passed in March, so I did around 40 hours.
I'd say observations was my weakest thing too when I was learning, as the examiners WILL notice if you don't look. Where as on your bike they're less likely to notice.
Also your bike licence does double as a car provisional, just look at your counter part, it should have catagory B in the Provisional Entitlement box.
One thing I will say is don't stick with the same instructor just because you feel you have to, I had 3 instructors, the first one was hampering me, the second was ok but the 3rd I got on with the best and above all they were the cheapest and ultimately took me onto passing my test.
And I shall be doing pass plus with them in a few weeks. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 18 years, 327 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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