Best friend Uni problems.....

[killa]

My best girl mate has quit Uni……she was doing something involving arts and photography, she loved the photography thing.
She was putting in effort but I think the work load got the better of her, she had some personal probs also, and she has decided to quit.

She has no idea where to turn now, she works in a clothes shop most days now, she was saying to me about getting some sort of office job. Perhaps involving typing!?!?!
WTF?!
I can’t let this happen…..but then I don’t know what to suggest.
She has a real innovative imagination when it comes to fashion (she did this course before), her photography is superb and she can make jewellery. She made some strange bits of jewellery, out of Barbie accessories, things like that, cool stuff though!
She’s loads of talent, so I don’t want her wasting this time for a bloody admin job.

Any advice guys??

Thanks

K
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[Stiffler]

what year was she? Did she consider defering her study for a year to get herself settled and in a better position to continue? Is it too late for her to go back?

I agree that letting her get into some boring Admin job could be a big mistake if she gets stuck there... But on the other hand she may just want a job that is low on stress for a while, so she can get her act together.

Sounds like she is talented enough to be useful but getting into a job is never easy. Often it's how much desire you have to go out and find something suitable and also a little of who you know...

Sounds like your best bet is to try and support her decisions and offer some sensible grounded advice. Try not to say things like "don't get a bloody admin job".
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[Itchy]

as said what year is she in? , if by 2nd or 3rd then maybe its worth continuing it at a slower pace, like maybe taking it part time 1/2 work load takes longer to get said degree of course.
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[killa]

She did mention about referring but then I think the admin thing was like an alternative.

I’ll have another word with her, I just really don’t know where she can start looking.
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[JonB]

How weird.

I know about 10 people have dropped out of uni (first year) this week. I don't get it, just because we have exams coming up they can't handle the pressure? I'm sure this isn't the case with your mate, but I think a lot of people think going to university is all fun and games, then they realise they actually have to do some work and drop out.

Besides all you need in the first year is 40% anyway.
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[killa]

Indeed 40% is a pass....

She lives near me and only about a mile from Uni, she isn't like a student, she goes in, works, comes home.
I think due to her BF and family probs she has struggled to get together decent essays. She's failed the last 3-4 so decided to quit.
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[Itchy]

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[pwntifex]

I doubt she would have gotten anywhere with an Art/Photography degree anyway, it doesn't really get you much, art and photography are measured on your skill, not your academic qualifications.

Not being funny, but loads of people take an arts degree thinking they're just going to go and take pictures of their mates in funny hats and slap some paint on a piece of paper.

They're always amazed when they learn that there's theory and history involved and that you have to produce a lot of work.

If she dropped out, then maybe she just doesn't have the talent that you think she does. Any art/media job needs you to be determined, talented, and experienced. They are generally very hard to get. Getting into the fashion industry is basically impossible.

There are so many girls who are 'good at art' or 'good at photography' and so many friends who are surprised when they bomb out because they're 'so talented'. The truth is, most aren't, or they aren't prepared to put the work in.

Anyway, good luck to your friend. Sounds like she had an epiphany.
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[Itchy]

I'd semi agree , our secretary has a masters in fashion something or something and makes
£7/h as a secretary temp, creative things like that depend less on your qualifications and
more on your portfolion , go ask GmanXiii he works I think in the same building as me
as a modern artist of sorts , my arty farty work is well old skool these days.

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[Visitor Q]

Some people are just retarded. Cant be helped. Although she is doing a highly coursework intensive course, which tend to be the killers. With my course aslong as you get all the notes, and have a few textbooks (and some speed) you can easily get 60% in each exam reading through everything the night before assuming your not an idiot.

Then again my ex failed first year last year, and failed it again this year.

Shes retaking it but a slightly different course a third time

Some people REALLY /should/ give up.

Some people drop out because of a fear of failure too Bizarre that one.

To me, if you have the intelligence (if not do art) its a no brainer.
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Itchy - Which Uni did you study at ?
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[gmanxiii]

I didnt do an arts related course but went through a similar(ish) thing myself during uni, at one point was going to drop out because i found it increasingly tough so couldnt be arsed, heart also wasnt in it anymore and I had a ton of personal probs. only decided against it in the end as i had a year left (mates and parents main arguments is you might as well finish it off and have a degree of sorts) and my other alternative was standing in a shop all day (which i ended up doing for a year after uni anyway).

Sometimes you need to experience the other side to realise its not what you want to be stuck in. My degree i might as well not have bothered with. I carried on working in a shop after, got very bitter and annoyed and just packed it in one day to chase what i really wanted to do.

Funny thing is i didnt know what that was, i just felt a desire to be creative again, something i gave up like 5 years earlier after college. Its now been over a year since i said sod it and its been pretty difficult getting back on track but its possible. now im doing something i finally feel i enjoy.

its tough especially if your up against art & design graduates and there is a lot of talented people out there. luckily i did get some help to get some experience under my belt (its true that its not what you know but who you know) but i could of easily just of done what alot of people do and just stayed put in a dead end job for the rest of my life as it was comfortable, not that much stress and pays the bills. This is a trap she can potentially fall into unless paper pushing in an office is what she really wants to do.

If she wants to hang in there I found getting to know and actually being around creative people and a creative community really helped me stay inspired and interested. Its essential to keep yourself around like minded folks and keep knowing whats out there, what work is raising the bar etc. Although i know i'll never be the best at what i do it does help me try and up my own game. Take her to go see some shows and exhibitions, theres some really cool stuff going on not just in her field, art, fashion, toy exhibitons etc and have fun doing it. As i said before its not what you know its who you know, she'll meet people who can help open doors to the dream job she may want.

oops thats quite alot of drivel ive written there, hope some of it helps.
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[colin1]

she should set herself up as a wedding photographer

they charge a fortune so as long as she does a bit of research at sourcing albums, etc she can make a packet for not much work

bloke at my work does it on weekends

my sis is doing a photography course and she reckons you can also make a packet doing baby photos, but when i suggested this to bloke at work he didnt like the idea much.

getting the clients will take a bit of effort but she already knows how to take pictures
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[Willow]

Think the best thing you can do is just make her feel good about herself, if she was having problems out of uni then she would not have been feeling on top of the world anyway. But add to that deadlines etc and she properly felt ten times worse. Just tell her that she still can go back, tell her that you think her work is great.. just be truthful and dont over do it. Make her feel good again about what she was doing at uni and you never know she might feel she wants to go back.

Im about to get out of a art course. I use to really love doing it all but now i really feel a bit shit about it all, decided to stick the end of the course out but after that im not continuing. I've stuck everything into a box and that will be that from now on. She might feel like that be then again she might just be waiting for people to give her a bit of a boast, and give her the lift she needs... sometimes people just need to hear that you like what they are doing in life.
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