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nsr_rory
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 06 May 2007    Post subject: how do i know? Reply with quote

on my nsr thats not running if you put it into gear and try to push it the rear wheel is completley locked up wether u push it back or forwards. does this mean the top end has seized ? is there a way to find out wether its a top end seizure or bottom or even both ?
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Jamie S
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 07 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be eaither , your best bet is to strip the whole engine down.
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PostPosted: 00:18 - 07 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

if its seized, take off the left hand side engine cover and try turning the alternator flywheel, if it wont move, then its seized.
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 08 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think your best bet if it is seized is to either strip it as jamie suggested, or to fill the bike with oil, and chuck a load of oil in the cylinder, take off the top cover (not sure what its called, but the valves are under there) and chck a load of oil in there, concentrating mainly on the cam chain.
then, try the flywheel again, make it turn a bit, leave for a while, turn again and so on.
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Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 08 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsprattuk wrote:
i take off the top cover (not sure what its called, but the valves are under there)


Rocker cover/cam cover Wink

What makes you think it is sized by the way ?

Explain what happened.
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 08 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think he means the bike wont move at all like most will when they are in gear.

the fact that the gearbox works, and when its in neutral it rolls would suggest if anything is seized, it would only be the top end.
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 08 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsprattuk wrote:
i think your best bet if it is seized is to either strip it as jamie suggested, or to fill the bike with oil, and chuck a load of oil in the cylinder, take off the top cover (not sure what its called, but the valves are under there) and chck a load of oil in there, concentrating mainly on the cam chain.
then, try the flywheel again, make it turn a bit, leave for a while, turn again and so on.


NSR's are 2t, so no valves, cams, or cam chain. Cool
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 08 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah rite , well why doesn't he try the electric/kick starter with the tappet cover off and see if he can see the cam move , if it doesn't it is a bottom end seizure.

EDIT: I have just seen above post, ignore what I said. ^


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PostPosted: 19:37 - 08 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamie stokes wrote:
Ah rite , well why doesn't he try the electric/kick starter with the tappet cover off and see if he can see the cam move , if it doesn't it is a bottom end seizure.


It's a 2t, no cams.
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 08 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know that now after reading your post that was almost the same time as mine.

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