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PostPosted: 19:17 - 02 May 2007    Post subject: Photography (Bikes/Scenery etc.) - SLR's - Not 56k Safe! Reply with quote

Ok, following the thread from SLR camera's in the Geek Zone I purchased the Canon 350D. It came with a kit bag and the 18-55mm lens which is decent enough for me at the minute.

Here's some pictures that I came up with the last couple of days. Any opinions, tips or whatever else welcome as I don't know too much about this malarky but its something I've always wanted to get into.

https://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t298/bazza_z750/IMG_0391.jpg

https://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t298/bazza_z750/IMG_0397.jpg

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https://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t298/bazza_z750/IMG_0468.jpg

https://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t298/bazza_z750/IMG_0740.jpg

https://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t298/bazza_z750/IMG_0728.jpg

By the way thats not cocaine on her nose Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 02 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want one, i think i'd take up a new hobbie if i had a decent camera like that. Smile
Photo's look great especially the first & last, well all of them really.
Is it good for taking pics of insects & wildlife? Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 02 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

she has snot about to dribble out of her nose.

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PostPosted: 20:26 - 02 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Have more of a play with the focus distances. Autofocus will focus on a particular point, where if you are trying for a landscape you want most of it in focus. Look up hyperfocal distance.

Also consider a faster lense to isolating things and throwing the background out of focus (eg, the Canon 50mm f1.8 lense which is about the cheapest one they do).

But pretty good.

All the best

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PostPosted: 00:10 - 03 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replys folks,

Misc - it is very good for wildlife, I have taken a few shots of flowers in the garden which I will upload later (battery is dead at the minute). The only downside is that with the standard lense you can't get any serious up-close insects. Although I will be looking into getting the 90-300mm in the near future which I think can cope with that stuff. Wehave racing pigeons in the shed down the back, took a few shots as well with the high shutter speed whilst the birds are flying... got a few decent ones.


Kickstart - thanks for the advice mate, so is it a low ISO for dark photos and high ISO for daylight? Confused I think I will invest in the 50mm lens as well Thumbs Up I'm having something that is really bugging me at the minute, I can't get the shutter speed to full when the flash is in operation. It will only go to 200 rather than 4000 which can be very frustrating Evil or Very Mad Is there anyway to turn that function off so I can set it to whatever I wish? I tried using the autofocus tonight there, although it wasn't with great sucess but I'll pick it up I'm sure.

I'll upload the photos taken tonight tomorrow night at some stage Thumbs Up Karma
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PostPosted: 00:37 - 03 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bazza_RS125 wrote:
Kickstart - thanks for the advice mate, so is it a low ISO for dark photos and high ISO for daylight? Confused


The ISO rating is how sensitive the camera will be to light. The higher the number the more sensitive.

All done in "stops".

So using an aperture of f8 and a shutter speed of 1/160 gives the same amount of light as an aperture of f5.6 and a shutter speed of 1/320. Aperture is a ratio, but the steps f2.8, f4, f5.6, f8, etc, are each a doubling in the amount of light. However if you go from iso 100 to iso 200 you are doubling the sensitivity. So on the example you could keep using f8 and use a shutter speed of 1/320.

Bazza_RS125 wrote:
I think I will invest in the 50mm lens as well Thumbs Up


It is Canons cheapest lense and pretty good (feels very cheap and plasticky, but works well). There is also an f1.4 version (more money) and an f1.2 version (time to raid a bank money), and there used to be an f1 version (time to hold the queen to ransom, for a 2nd hand one).

Can do this with the depth of field with the f1.8.

https://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/TempPicture/VincentExhaustSmall.jpg

The wider the aperture (ie, smaller the f number) then the less the depth of field for a given lense.

Bazza_RS125 wrote:
I'm having something that is really bugging me at the minute, I can't get the shutter speed to full when the flash is in operation. It will only go to 200 rather than 4000 which can be very frustrating Evil or Very Mad


That is the limit on the flash sync speed. Not really anything you can do about it (short of spending a hell of a lot more money on a pro spec camera, and even that won't gain you much, maybe push it to 1/250th). Basically the flash only works when the shutter is fully open, and at higher shutter speeds the shutter is never fully open. One edge of the shutter opens up to reveal the sensor, then the other edge follows it to cover the sensor, but at high shutter speeds the following edge doesn't have time for the leading edge to have revealed the whole sensor.

Bazza_RS125 wrote:
I tried using the autofocus tonight there, although it wasn't with great sucess but I'll pick it up I'm sure.


Autofocus works on recognising lines, and as such needs a fair amount of contrast. For this it needs light. My old original D30 is pretty awful for autofocus in poor light. Can be better to just resort to manual focusing in poor light.

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 01:30 - 03 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really want to get a decent camera. I'm getting into photography now but I just can't justify the prices of cameras! IMO and I have been told, I have an eye for a photo, just don't have the camera to finish it off! Thumbs Down

Nice pictures though mate.
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PostPosted: 07:58 - 03 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graham88 wrote:
but I just can't justify the prices of cameras!


Amazon currently have a Pentax dSLR up for £299.

All the best

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PostPosted: 08:44 - 03 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Graham88 wrote:
but I just can't justify the prices of cameras!


Amazon currently have a Pentax dSLR up for £299.

All the best

Keith


There are 350D's and D50's for about the same money if you have a good look round.

The Sigma 70-300 APO DG is one of the best budget zoom lenses, less than 150 squid new, well worth a look as is the cheap as chips nifty fifty (canon 50mm f1.8) that kickstart has mentioned.

I would avoid anything above ISO 200 as you will get a lot of noise in the pictures. I would invest in a tripod for low light photos. Failing that, I use Noise Ninja to clean up my pics.

https://www.picturecode.com

Enjoy your new camera, take loads of pics and avoid using auto mode, best to fiddle with all the setting and see what works best.

Have fun! Mr. Green

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PostPosted: 16:03 - 03 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever you just said, means nothing to me!

And that's £299 I don't have to spend on a camera! Sad
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 05 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finance is a wonderful thing Graham Wink Laughing

Got some more photos the other night...

https://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t298/bazza_z750/IMG_1078.jpg

https://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t298/bazza_z750/IMG_1157.jpg

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https://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t298/bazza_z750/IMG_1278.jpg

A bit gutted about this one, the low light brought the shutter speed down Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: 11:41 - 05 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

The "castle" looks good. Slightly soft, but try sharpening it slightly in Photoshop. At the same time clone / heal out the twigs in either side. I personally think the blue sky is a nice contrast to the building.

The next one (your better half I presume) is good. Think the focus needs to be moved very slightly (with people in that situation, focus on the eyes). Looks like the zip is what you have focused on, which is 1~2" back from the eyes. Maybe use manual focus. Trouble is that the distances are so small you need both yourself and your target to be very steady while you focus and shoot.

With the sun, maybe expose it for slightly longer. Difficult to say, but I think it could do with some more detail on the landscape. Also think about moving the image up or down a bit (rule of thirds, keep the horizon close to either the 1/3 or 2/3 line). Good timing to get the shot at that time of day.

Next one similarly move the horizon. Also think about moving slightly to the right to move where the line of the stream enters the image. Maybe force the camera to focus more into the distance.

Like the one of the dandelion. Has come out a touch soft, but in that light I think you would struggle to do otherwise, and a flash would likely underexpose the background horribly. Maybe try it again in brighter light so you can use a faster shutter speed and not have to care about the flower moving.

Not sure the one of the bike has worked. Think it either needs a wider apperture and focus on the l/h switchgear to throw the background out of focus (and move slightly to the right to get the tail light out of the shot), or move back, use a small apperture and get everything in focus.

The ladybird could do with being larger. Have a play cropping the full size image to remove some of the hand / background.

The last one there are a couple of issues. Shutter speed is too slow, but it is also underexposed. Suspect this is partly because the camera is getting confused by the headlight on the bike. If you try it again, take a shot of the bridge without a bike in it, check the shutter speed / apperture and set the camera to manual mode with those settings. Then shoot the bikes. However at that kind of angle you need a fairly fast shutter speed.

Keep experimenting. You are getting there. Just watch out as it can get expensive Wink .

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 05 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really appreciate the feedback mate I will definately take the advice on board. I'm going to that bridge again tomorrow I think so will try a few different methods. I know what you mean about it getting expensive I want one of these -

The 90-300mm lens...
https://www.camerabox.co.uk/productDA.asp?ProductID=1993&gclid=CPuTzeny9osCFQTnlAodc1igVQ

Not that expensive for a lens but still pretty steep for a tightwad Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 05 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

No problem.

For lense reviews try:-

https://www.fredmiranda.com/

They don't have a listing for the 90-300 though.

I have the cheap 75-300. To be honest it does an OK job. You can get some noticeable chromatic aberation (basically caused because the lense elements bend different coloured light by slightly different amounts, shows up generally as purple fringes on high contrast edges), but it does the job. You can see the purple finging on here (fairly soft image).

You land up building up a selection as time goes on.

Worth checking Ebay and the like for 2nd hand lenses (and some camera shops deal in 2nd hand stock (eg https://www.mifsuds.com/ , who happen to have a 90-300 in for about £90). For new lenses check https://www.camerapricebuster.co.uk/ for an idea of who has the cheapest prices.

All the best

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PostPosted: 13:39 - 05 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hi-jack your thread baz, but here's some I've taken with a canon 350 Embarassed where am I going wrong Keith?

https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/primmy/IMG_2032.jpg

https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/primmy/IMG_2038.jpg

https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/primmy/IMG_2046.jpg

https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/primmy/IMG_2049.jpg

Apologies for the dandelion content, their all there is in my garden, thats remotely photogenic Neutral
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 05 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

No worries mate, I like the bunch of dandielions.. nice touch Cool

EDIT : The third picture.
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 05 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

To be honest I actually like the last pic of the dandelions. Looks almost like "attack of the killer dandelions". Maybe tweak the angle to get the horizon level, and move the angle to get rid of the distracting background.

First dandelion pic has too much of a distracting background, while the 2nd is suffering as the nearest one is so close that when focusing there the depth of field is too short to cover the rest, and too long to exclude them.

Plug one is novel. Maybe try it in portrait so the image is the same shape as the target.

All the best

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PostPosted: 14:42 - 07 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baz, got any new uns? Quite fancy getting a new lens and seeing what effects can be had. I've played with the M setting today different aperture and exposurey things, though my understanding of either is very limited Laughing

Keith are there any good books/websites explaining proper serious photography?

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PostPosted: 15:32 - 07 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Digital camera' Magazine - https://www.dcmag.co.uk/
https://www.digicamhelp.com/index.php

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PostPosted: 15:34 - 07 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

vee wrote:
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Cheers vee! Will have a browse Surprised

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PostPosted: 00:24 - 08 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Took these over the past couple of days, and most of them have been altered by my suspicious Photoshopping ability Laughing

https://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t298/bazza_z750/Spider.jpg

https://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t298/bazza_z750/Flower.jpg

https://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t298/bazza_z750/Outlook.jpg

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https://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t298/bazza_z750/Closeup.jpg

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https://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t298/bazza_z750/Grill.jpg

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PostPosted: 00:53 - 08 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definately coming along brian, i like the eye one(love eye pictures) and the panoramic one.

There seems to be a lot of noise in some of them, try lowering the ISO and it should diminish that.

You've got the eye for composition - thats the natural talent, learning to use the camera is the easy part, can see the development even in this thread, keep on with it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 01:01 - 08 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Like the spider, although possibly could do with more depth of field to get the legs sharper (and scare people more Wink ).

The tulip looks good. Not sure if you could crop it down a bit to move the flower slightly further in and up.

the mesh floor looks good. Would be tempted to photoshop out the light you can see in one spot. Would make it a bit more abstract.

So, you have taken pics on the Antrim cost and around Belfast Loch. Where to now?

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PostPosted: 18:59 - 08 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks folks!

Keith I'm going up to the NorthWest 200 on Saturday and will hopefully get the hold of a 90-200mm Sigma for the day. So I'll try and get a good few racing shots Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 08 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You bastard. I want your camera. Funds don't permit at the moment though Laughing

Nice pics mate, i'm impressed Thumbs Up
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