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Scotty
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 19 Sep 2003    Post subject: R.I.P Original BP Reply with quote

Well after a nice
17'032khm my original bore and piston have gave up.

After keith came round smashed the bike and took the top end off.
We took a closer inspection to the piston and came up with this.

Its shagged.


The piston is self explanitory, look at pics.
The bore has chippings on the exhuast port. and a few bits on the bore have been skimmed off.

there was one piston ring in full working order.
Although it had moved round so that the piston gap was actually facing the exhaust port Confused

And yes the bike still ran with the piston and remaining ring like that.
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Scotty
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 19 Sep 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last piccy...
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Kris
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 19 Sep 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

\o/ nicely done scotty Very Happy

Mine looked a bit like that - had to get a new as barrell as well 'cos my exhaust port got ripped to pieces like yours. Never took any pics though, wish I had.

Cost me £300 to get it sorted in the end Confused dealer knocked a bit off as well because he's nice like that.

Get well soon Scoot's NSR Very Happy
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Scotty
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 19 Sep 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i'm probably looking the wrong side of £150 to get all this fixed.

Barrel piston - £85
Rings - god knows probably about £20
Gasket Set - £20
Small end bearing - £10
Gudeon pin - £10

Few seals and other bits for powervalve - £10

But i did get a few cables of colin for free which probably saved me about £20.
Nice one son Very Happy

But once its done, hopefully i'll get another 15'000khm out of the wee NSR.

But i'm not looking forward to running the bike in, or coming to hills, lol...
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Luke_Retrofly
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 19 Sep 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi
similar thing happened to mine kris, completely wrecked half of my piston, Bought a second hand top end it was that bad, cost me about £250 in all i think Very Happy

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Scotty
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 19 Sep 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must have got away lightly then with the bore and piston then and buying new.
Next time i'll change the rings after 10k, gotta be better than going through pistons / barrels etc...
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Shaun
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 19 Sep 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotty wrote:
Next time i'll change the rings after 10k


I should probably do that, oh well I'll just learn the hard way!
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 19 Sep 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaun wrote:
Scotty wrote:
Next time i'll change the rings after 10k


I should probably do that, oh well I'll just learn the hard way!


It isn't difficult. Gentle afternoons work. I will help if you want.

All the best

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Shaun
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 19 Sep 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Help probably a must for me however its not the changing the rings that bothers me, its the running it back in after that does although I suppose it should be done I'll let you know when I've got the rings and gaskets etc
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 19 Sep 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Running it in isn't too bad.

Get the engine bits from Peter Knight on 0176 141 4106. He keeps most bits in stock and is cheaper than Aprilia. You need new rings, a base gasket, a couple of circlips and a power valve gasket.

All the best

Keith
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Scotty
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PostPosted: 01:07 - 20 Sep 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

once you change the rings, and your still on the orginal bore and piston, do the rings need to be run in, i wouldnt imagine there that bad, but require a little?
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 01:16 - 20 Sep 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I run them in, doing about 500km at 5000rpm max, then going up around 1000rpm every 100km aiming to be reving it out regularly around 1000km.

All the best

Keith
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Scotty
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PostPosted: 01:19 - 20 Sep 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

500khm doesnt seem far, but when your not allowed to go over 5k, me thinks its going to be boring and dire.
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Scooby
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PostPosted: 01:58 - 20 Sep 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I had my NSR I was originally going to buy a whole new top end as spares. I am talking a spare set of rings, gaskets, piston, etc... basically the lot, so that if it blew up I could fix it more or less straight away. The only thing that pisses me off more than not having a bike is having one in the garage that's fucked and you're waiting for some wanker at your local bike shop to pull his finger out and get you some parts. I didn't buy the parts as I said to myself I would, wish I had now, should have budgeted it in with the cost of the bike. Think I will with my next bike, maybe not to the extent of a new top end, cos my next bike is a 4 stroke, but definitely spare chain, sprockets, brake pads, brake fluid, etc.
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Scooby
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PostPosted: 02:45 - 20 Sep 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

People keep posting about their pistons. Don't you guys know how to destroy a piston properly?!?! Jeez Very Happy
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Scotty
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 20 Sep 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno mine was pretty shagged but still ran Laughing

Me love two smokes! Very Happy
Once its back on the road Very Happy yay!
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 20 Sep 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonceunounce wrote:
im never buying a 2 stroke again, there just a pisstake. Twisted Evil


Try rebuilding a 4 stroke then see which you prefer Razz Very Happy

While 2 strokes are likely to go bang in more major ways, at least it tends to be a fair bit simpler to sort out when they do go bang nastily Smile.
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Scotty
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 20 Sep 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

They tend to usually be cheaper to fix aswell.
Simpler engines.
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 20 Sep 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scooby wrote:
People keep posting about their pistons. Don't you guys know how to destroy a piston properly?!?! Jeez Very Happy


No dedication. Must try harder. Hows this:-

https://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/Destruction/img_3514.jpg

All the best

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