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oriel dave
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PostPosted: 09:19 - 19 May 2007    Post subject: How to take a bike off the centre stand? Reply with quote

On two separate occasions I have been told to do this different ways:

a) Left hand on left handlebar grip, right hand on right grip and front brake - push forward off stand and apply front brake

b) Left hand on left handlebar grip, right hand on grab handle beneath seat - pull off stand with no brake control

Is there a right and wrong way? (This is for a 125)

Will Mr Examiner care?

Thanks very much

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PostPosted: 09:43 - 19 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

as long as you dont drop it, im sure the examiner won't care. just do it however you feel works best for you
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PostPosted: 09:54 - 19 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was told never to roll the bike off the centre stand (method a), always lift the bike off (method b).

Basically method b and then when the bike is on it's back wheel but you still have pressure on the stand with your foot and the bike is level then move your right hand to the front brake and then move your foot off the stand.


But for your test, I'd recommend just using the side stand - you'll find it much easier.
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PostPosted: 10:01 - 19 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I was taught to push it off the stand using both hands on the bars and immediately stop it rolling with the front brake (so the examiner sees the forks dive a little bit). Thereby proving you are in control of it and that the bike isn't going to roll off down the street.
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PostPosted: 10:08 - 19 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive no idea if you can do this on other bikes, but on my yp250, you just sit on it , lean back, and drive forward. the centre stand then just flicks up, and you keep moving and ride away

i suspect mr examiner would have some problem with this
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 19 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was told to place my left hand on left handle bar with my right hand on the pillion bar then while resting your foot on the stand roll it off, keeping pressure on the stand, then swap your right hand to the front brake then let your foot off the stand and apply the front brake to keep control of the bike

and yes mr examiner will care if you just pull it straight off as it will look as though you dont have control okf the bike
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

teampots wrote:
i was told to place my left hand on left handle bar with my right hand on the pillion bar then while resting your foot on the stand roll it off, keeping pressure on the stand, then swap your right hand to the front brake then let your foot off the stand and apply the front brake to keep control of the bike.


Yep, I did my CBT a couple of weeks ago so this is all still fresh in my memory and that's exactly the way I was told to do it. I think the point is that once you've lifted it forward, the stands still i contact with the road keeping the bike stable so that then allows you to switch hands and put your right hand on the front brake.
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: centre stand Reply with quote

in the opinion of safety and caution,id say to be on the left of the bike,left hand on left bar,right hand on right bar(covering brake),put left foot just in front of centre stand and rock bike forward off of stand.,just practice.tim Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone, much appreciated,

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PostPosted: 20:31 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leg over bike, sit on seat, both hands on bars and push forward with feet.... You can then use front brake to stop bike.
Tend to find that on some bikes standing at the side and pushing can result in a large dent in leg...... Thanks to stand comming up.
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

method be is all very well but you can only use it if your bike has grab rails. mine doesn't
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
Leg over bike, sit on seat, both hands on bars and push forward with feet.... You can then use front brake to stop bike.
Tend to find that on some bikes standing at the side and pushing can result in a large dent in leg...... Thanks to stand comming up.
This is how I do it as it's easy to do once you're kitted up and the engine's started, but I was told specifically not to do it this way on my CBT. Dunno why.
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PostPosted: 08:32 - 21 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

gypsyjackson wrote:
iooi wrote:
Leg over bike, sit on seat, both hands on bars and push forward with feet.... You can then use front brake to stop bike.
Tend to find that on some bikes standing at the side and pushing can result in a large dent in leg...... Thanks to stand comming up.
This is how I do it as it's easy to do once you're kitted up and the engine's started, but I was told specifically not to do it this way on my CBT. Dunno why.


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PostPosted: 16:14 - 21 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

gypsyjackson wrote:
I was told specifically not to do it this way on my CBT. Dunno why.


Mmm, Linky

Strange as to me you have not total control over bike.Especially at the point where you only have one hand on the bars. If it starts to go away from you.... You are stuffed.
Might be Ok on level ground, but any sort of camber....
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Well, I was taught to push it off the stand using both hands on the bars and immediately stop it rolling with the front brake (so the examiner sees the forks dive a little bit). Thereby proving you are in control of it and that the bike isn't going to roll off down the street.


That's what I was taught to do too Thumbs Up Smile
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the test, park your bike facing out of the bay and on the sidestand. Makes it easier to get out and you're not faffing around with the centre stand....

I put the ZZR up onto the centre stand by simply standing on the lever, lift the other foot off the ground and shift my weight towards the back... It just pops up onto the stand with no issues. I tend though to then put the sidestand down as well so when I roll the bike forward off the centre stand I can put it straight down onto the sidestand. I just dab the front brake lever to lower it down so the bike doesn't roll on and lift up the sidestand.

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PostPosted: 15:02 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the test, park your bike facing out of the bay and on the sidestand. Makes it easier to get out and you're not faffing around with the centre stand....

I put the ZZR up onto the centre stand by simply standing on the lever, lift the other foot off the ground and shift my weight towards the back... It just pops up onto the stand with no issues. I tend though to then put the sidestand down as well so when I roll the bike forward off the centre stand I can put it straight down onto the sidestand. I just dab the front brake lever to lower it down so the bike doesn't roll on and lift up the sidestand.

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PostPosted: 22:16 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me get this straight, I put my left hand on the left handlebar and my right hand on the right handlebar this leaves my left hand and my right hand in total busy mode, if my right hand is not on the left handlebar and my left hand is not on the right handlebar, this means my left hand is doing the right thing. My right hand must also be right as it's not left out, I carnt see nothing left to say so it must all be right. Confused
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PostPosted: 08:18 - 23 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kurt wrote:
teampots wrote:
i was told to place my left hand on left handle bar with my right hand on the pillion bar then while resting your foot on the stand roll it off, keeping pressure on the stand, then swap your right hand to the front brake then let your foot off the stand and apply the front brake to keep control of the bike.


Yep, I did my CBT a couple of weeks ago so this is all still fresh in my memory and that's exactly the way I was told to do it. I think the point is that once you've lifted it forward, the stands still i contact with the road keeping the bike stable so that then allows you to switch hands and put your right hand on the front brake.


Ditto....

Did my CBT last Friday and my instructor described and demonstrated exactly the same method, but I was having trouble with it as I used my own bike (Hyosung Cruise II) so she had a go.
Because of the handlebar position and where the mirror bar comes, it was impossible to do it with the taught method. After this she said I might was well just sit on and rock it forwards.

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PostPosted: 09:40 - 23 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

But what if you are parked on a slope and the bike starts to roll away? FAILED Laughing

Trust me here, Use the both hands on the bars method - then all you got to do is push both handlebars and the bike will roll forward off the stand, and thus leaving you in total control as you can immediately apply the front brake.

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PostPosted: 09:43 - 23 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

AcIdBuRnZ wrote:
But what if you are parked on a slope and the bike starts to roll away? FAILED Laughing

Trust me here, Use the both hands on the bars method - then all you got to do is push both handlebars and the bike will roll forward off the stand, and thus leaving you in total control as you can immediately apply the front brake.



It's about what the test wants.

The DVLA method is to dig the stand in to stop the bike and keep it stable, then transfer your stand to the front brake. TBH i wasn't even asked to do it on my test.
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 23 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I take my ybr off its stand with both hands on the handle bars right hand covering the break and left keeping it steady and straight.

My arguement has always been. Im not a very tall person and find the bike roles abit as it comes off so covering the break stops the role espically on a hill.
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 23 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this for the test? I didnt do it, I got told it wasnt part of the test anymore.
I sit on the bike, hover front brake and use all the power I have Embarassed
Getting it on the main stand however, It just no go for me Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 25 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are meant to have one hand on the left handlebar and one hand on the sissy bar/back of bike. The reason being that you are facing the weight straight on and should have more control over the bike than if you are twisted slightly. The rules are a bit like the safety rules about bending your knees, with your back straight to lift something off the floor in the work place. Great in theory but not practical in reality. My old boss was a stickler for health and safety and I always made sure I'd bend my knees when I picked something up off the floor whilst she was about. It was a real struggle to get back up again if I was carrying something heavy though, cos I'm top heavy without extra weight so I looked like a blooming weeble lol! Stick it on the side stand during the test and don't worry too much or you'll get flustered and make mistakes.

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PostPosted: 15:02 - 25 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

give it a good kick, or push it over... fold up the stand and then pick the bike up. make sure you have good crashbungs Wink Laughing

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