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Misc
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 19 May 2007    Post subject: Engine cages. Reply with quote

Does anyone actually use one on here?
How good would these be in the event where you slide down the road as i hear mushrooms can snap off & bend in the engine, would you say there better then mushrooms?
Was thinking of getting one for the bike, yes they look kinda big but i'm really not bothered with how my bike looks if it's going to give me piece of mind & alot of protection.

https://thekneeslider.com/archives/2006/08/31/motorcycle-engine-protection-cages/

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PostPosted: 23:22 - 19 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always seen them as more for a stunt use.

Would it not make the bike touch down in a corner if you were cranked over far enough ?
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 19 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't like to think what would happen if you came off the bike at speed and the sticky out bit (that is the technical term) dug into something. I'd imagine it would bend the frame? Or just flip the bike...

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Like the idea though.
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 19 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose so but wouldn't that happen with mushrooms as they seem about the same size, just thought a cage looked more stable & where a mushrooms can snap off, this look like the actual frame would protect the engine etc.
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:
I suppose so but wouldn't that happen with mushrooms as they seem about the same size, just thought a cage looked more stable & where a mushrooms can snap off, this look like the actual frame would protect the engine etc.


Mushrooms SHOULD bend. But as G has said on a number of different occasions, he has seen instances where crash bungs do more damage than they are worth. I can't see that design being much good unless you're Mr butterfingers when it comes to slow manouvres with the bike.
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PostPosted: 00:27 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Off course dropping the bike when stationary but i'm talking about while riding, what would perform better.
Here's a little vid of it in action with the stunters.
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PostPosted: 01:02 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I fall off the last thing on my mind is the stupid engine that got me into the bother in the first place.
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't plan to fall off why buy them? They look like they reduce the ground clearance and make the bike look like a training bike? What next, fitting stabilizers? Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd quite like to get a set of these

https://www.powersstuntworx.com/images/2006%20R6%20crash%20cage%20race%20railz%20041.jpg

as it looks like there wouldn't be any clearance problems. I don't really want to go through the hassle of getting them shipped from the US however (the only place I can find that sells them is Powers Stuntworx. Anyone know where I can get something similar a little closer to home?
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Syx, nice find.

That works out at around £88 but shouldn't think the shipping to the U.K would be much more, might email them.
Although, would have to get them to send as a gift as i can imagine the tax would hurt a bit.
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:
would have to get them to send as a gift as i can imagine the tax would hurt a bit.

Good idea, the tax was one of the reasons I didn't want to order from the US but I'd imagine if I got in touch with them they'd happily do so. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Syx wrote:
Misc wrote:
would have to get them to send as a gift as i can imagine the tax would hurt a bit.

Good idea, the tax was one of the reasons I didn't want to order from the US but I'd imagine if I got in touch with them they'd happily do so. Thumbs Up


I believe that method no longer works. You'll get hit with the taxes I suspect. And then there is the £15 or so 'handling' fee from Parcel force.... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really? Goddamit. Sad
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

And i don't suppose they have any control over what company's deliver it when it comes to the U.K either.
If it's Parcel Force then yes expect a big bill, remember when i bought my ipod from Asia & got hit with a £40 bill, the buyer refunded me but that put me off buying big items from abroad.
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

They just look like the sort of engine bars that are common on naked bikes and cruisers, but big enough to go outside the fairings.

From a purely personal point of view in original link I think they spoil the lines of the bike. Do they actually offer much in the way of fairing protection? If they do then fair enough, but if they don't then a set of bars around the engine that fit inside the fairings would be better aesthetically. Whether you could actually get anything to fit inside the fairings is, of course, a moot point!

Gratuitous bike pic opportunity? Here's my Zephyr with her recently-fitted engine bars. Already saved her from a standing drop, which TBH is of much more concern to me than a fast crash. Himself reckons that they will save a lot of damage during a slow drop or a slide.

https://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a229/Yambabe/16042007060.jpg
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i remember asking sparks about them a while ago.

As far as im concerned being able to ride home after a drop is most important to me. And having a bit less concern when practicing rolling burnouts etc.

Only thing that would drive me nuts is getting the fucker off to get under the fairing. Just like the R+G's do now, but im guessing a cage would be ALOT worse.
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 21 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dropped my Hornet the other week exhaust side. After opening my eyes (i didn't wanna look) i was surprised to see my bike almost hovering above the tarmac suspended on its engine bars. Only damage was a scraped mirror and givi box. Engine got away with it and the bars polished up nicely. Worth their weight in gold IMO. They came with my bike anyway but I would have bought them had they not and for £60 well worth it

https://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d44/short1uk/Hornet/SMALLWALL.jpg

Any they don't look bad either i think.
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PostPosted: 12:40 - 21 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those cages in your first link are mainly for stunters, there's a thread MarJay started somewhere, where he debates it with Sparks. Apparently on road bikes they'd have major ground clearance issues.

Normally crash bars are pretty cool, I've had them before. Friend of my Dads fell off and got his foot caught in his though, snapped his ankle pretty efficiently.

I'll be sticking with mushrooms.

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PostPosted: 13:05 - 21 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 on the crash bars for nakeds, and has been said before this just looks the same principle for a faired bike. I'm surprised they don't have standard bungs on the ends, though.

Bars saved my bike when I dropped it shortly after I bought it - the wrong way down a steep slope (wheels facing uphill etc). No damage, supported by the bar ends, the engine guards, and the topbox. Nearly herniated meself picking the £$%%^&$ thing up, though...
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