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Resurrection
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: MOT questions Reply with quote

First off.

I had a load of electircal problems a while back and i never bothered putting bulbs back into my sidelights.

Is this going to be an MOT fail or will i need to go get some bulbs?

https://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n290/benus_maximus/DSC00007.jpg

The main bulb and headlight works and has high beam setting.

Secondly my speedo cable snapped a while ago.

Is this a fail?

Cheers

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PostPosted: 00:13 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they say ALL lights that are fitted have to work, cant you just take the side lights off for MOT, not sure about your speedo cable, but you have that digital one on there don't you?
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PostPosted: 00:14 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think your sidelights are fine as long as your main light has normal light and high beam.

As to Speedo cable, i think a working speedo is required, not 100% on that but im pretty sure.
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PostPosted: 00:15 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

alien.46.uk wrote:
I think your sidelights are fine as long as your main light has normal light and high beam.

As to Speedo cable, i think a working speedo is required, not 100% on that but im pretty sure.


Yeah i keep hearing conflicting stuff so thats why i thought i'd ask the masses

Oh well yet more money

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PostPosted: 00:18 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

if lights are fitted the must work Very Happy

think the speedo it a failure too as its fitted it has to work

but not many places actually check the speedo

its a weird some of the rules they have i know its not bikes but my dads landrover had seat belts fitted and 1 of them didnt work so it failed even though they dont have to be fitted as its ancient he took them out and it passed crazy eh Confused

might be worth just taking the lights off for mot if you can Confused

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PostPosted: 00:18 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

But what about your digital one, that works, dont spend more money her, get the GSX back Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:27 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The digital one is off a push bike Embarassed

I'll just bang lights back in. I'm just REALLY lazy

Bulbs are just abit hard to get hold of

Oh well best get shopping

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PostPosted: 00:56 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

push bike?







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PostPosted: 01:44 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I may have a selection of bulbs in the shed
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PostPosted: 01:48 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got one bulb

I doubt you'll have one

I'll post a picture of it tomorrow when my cam is charged

Its an odd one with a big lip under the glass

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PostPosted: 01:51 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't have any odd bulbs, mine are normal, some have lips some don't


But as i said no odd one's.
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

No requirement for a working speedo. It's not tested on the MOT. I specifically asked the guy who MOTs my bikes this and it has been MOTed for the last three years without a working speedo (there isn't even a speedo drive on the wheel).

The light's will fail if they aren't working. You should get away with taping them up for the MOT (stick gaffa tape or similar over the lens) because it does have a proper light anyway. Asking your MOT tester beforehand is the best bet though because in my experience, many of them make up non-existant rules to suit themselves.
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PostPosted: 12:03 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bike failed for not having sidelights, just got a couple of white LED's and used them instead as I didn't have the original bulb holders. Wedged in place usinga couple of rubber grommets and some insulating tape.
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was working on the assumption that there is a position light in the 'main' headlamp unit on that bike. There is certainly a space for one. That'll have to have a working bulb in it.

The two additional lights are surplus to requirements but if they are fitted and unmasked they will be expected to work.
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right thankyou very much

Just gotta mess about finding a matching bulb now

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PostPosted: 19:48 - 23 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
No requirement for a working speedo. It's not tested on the MOT. I specifically asked the guy who MOTs my bikes this and it has been MOTed for the last three years without a working speedo (there isn't even a speedo drive on the wheel).


Seems odd I would have thought not knowing what speed your doing would be considerd a safety issue ,handy though as mine dose not work either Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 23 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrJustice wrote:
Seems odd I would have thought not knowing what speed your doing would be considerd a safety issue

Why?
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 23 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

carvell wrote:

Why?


Because you won't know if you exceeding the speed limit which could be considerd as dangerous Confused
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

A working speedo has never been part of the MOT test. It is not classed as dangerous because the rider/driver should always drive to the conditions regardless and the speed limit is only a limit, it doesn't mean that it is safe to drive at that speed at that time anyway. Dangerous is things like bolts missing out of brake calipers, tyre worn down to its cords etc, things that are likely to cause danger to yourself or others that you have no direct control over.
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm quite certain i know my speed by the gears and revs.

Plus i go through the speed boards telling you your speed under the limit or on it etc when i want.

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PostPosted: 16:32 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: look at this Reply with quote

Hi there try having a wee look at this think it should tell you all you need to know https://www.ukmot.com/bike/index.asp
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PostPosted: 15:54 - 25 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattEMulsion wrote:
A working speedo has never been part of the MOT test. It is not classed as dangerous because the rider/driver should always drive to the conditions regardless and the speed limit is only a limit, it doesn't mean that it is safe to drive at that speed at that time anyway. Dangerous is things like bolts missing out of brake calipers, tyre worn down to its cords etc, things that are likely to cause danger to yourself or others that you have no direct control over.


Make's sence Thumbs Up
However I'm surprised its legal to have a speedo thats not working because the bike then stops clocking up the miles and if you get it working at a later date and sell it on the milage would not be genuine !
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 25 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's illegal to misrepresent the mileage when selling a bike. You would be required to make the buyer aware of any discrepancy between what the odometer reads and what the true mileage is.

This is usually done by putting a sticker reading "Mileage not garaunteed accurate" over the odometer. It is also worth writing this into the bill of sale which you both sign.
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 25 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey,

My gpz400r has a sidelight switch but no sidelights fitted. Its passed all 3 MOTS ive put it in for with no problems and no recomendation.

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PostPosted: 17:23 - 25 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye, the trouble is you can clearly see the hole in the reflector for the sidelight bulb when you look at the headlamp on that bike.
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