17years old ...RVF400(NC35) or Yammy R6 (both restricted)

[kaz32]

Hey everybody . . i am 16years old and will be 17 soon . . i am curious to know if i should jump on to a restricted R6 or wait till i am 19 and get a new model at that time or get a 2002 model just now . . if i wait then i am going to go for a RVF400(NC-35) Honda . . . not entirely sure yet though . . also does anybody know which bike run's better while on restricter's . . thanks.kaz

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

RVF will take the restriction a bit better.

Consider an NC30, you'll save more in insurance and purchase cost.
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[kaz32]

Awrite . . you think so a checked my quote on bennnets it's only a few pounds cheaper for the vfr man . . will the vfr not be of higher maintanance though ? thanks.kaz

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

Much of a muchness. The RVF is just a tartier version of the VFR, they share engines. It's more expensive to service RVF forks because they are upside downies. There are also more second hand spares for VFR's than RVF's in my experience at least.
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[Stiffler]

They're essentially very similar bikes engine design wise so maintaining them will cost the same... eg: A fortune, if you don't do it yourself!

The NC30's tend to be cheaper, but they're older.

I'm fairly confused by your original post though. It actually doesn't make much sense?

What I can gather - You're soon to be 17. You're not sure whether getting an R6 is a good idea? And if you were to get one should you buy a 2002 model or wait 2 years and buy a brand new one? Or you're going to wait and get a RVF400 even though you're thinking of gettting an R6 now or waiting and buying a brand new R6???
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

It's not worth getting an R6 now due to lots of reasons dicussed on this forum recently.

more insurance
higher purchase price
If you're restrictors blow away a full power 600 is a bit step with little experience.
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[kaz32]

Awrite . . . my choices are i can try get an r6 now a 2002 model and get it restricted for 2 years and keep that bike or i can get a vfr or rvf now and keep it restricted for 2 years and after the 2 years are up and i get my A liscence then get the latest model R6 that is out . . . understand ? ? am quite cofused myself really lol.thanks.kaz

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

Get the VFR, learn to corner etc. then step up to a full power 600 whatever that may be in a year or 2.
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[kaz32]

You think so only 500 difference that i would pay for the rvf and 50 more for insurance ? ? ? and i like the rvf better sound and looks.thanks.kaz

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

A decent VFR= 1000- 1250
https://www.parkers.co.uk/motorbikes/used-prices/Valuation.aspx?plate=46&deriv=2595

A decent RVF = 2000-3000 ish

it's a lot of money, but up to you.
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[kaz32]

When put like that lol it seems more but i'd pay around 1500 for a vfr and around 2100 for a rvf man and the fact that i'm going to hopefully keep it for 2 years i would probz go for the rvf to be truthful but i'm not finalising anything yet. . thanks for he info and advice big_ham very helpfull mate . . still got till August for my cbt lol so we o.k for time lol. . but i really can't wait man . . thanks.kaz

[Stiffler]

"rvf better sound?"

Do they sound much different???? The difference in looks are minimal to say the least. The RVF has upside down forks, prettier eyes and a subtle difference in position. And for that you get charged a whole lot more. You're buying your first bike you'll be learning your trade, possibly even drop it. I'd be aiming to get the cheapest bike you can get your hands on if I was you.

NC30's are hardly ugly (Gratuitous use of my bike)
https://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007%5C05%5C23%5Cbikepics-908301-full.jpg
Well I don't think so anyway
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[paulodd]

Get what you want and can afford.

The 400 will take the restriction ALOT better than the R6, like i've said before its criminal to restrict a 600, just doesn't feel like its running properally.

Both bikes engines sound very whiney and electrically, but the 600 with a decent zorst will sound better than a 400 with a decent zorst IMO.

Lets face it you won't keep the restrictors in for long so i suggest you go for the 400, however the R6 is a VERY nice bike, not biased at all, and lots of fun can be had on it - plus the tart factor


At the end of the day no matter what we all say its ultimatly your decision. I'm glad i got my R6 when i was 18 and have not regretted it for one min (other than the fixing cost's )
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[kaz32]

Hey , cool, well after the chat my uncle(who ride's an R6)had with my dad i really can't see myself getting the R6 to be honest , the only reason for this is that my uncle thinks that i will take out the restricters to early and hurt myself on a full power R6 . . can't really say that i disagree with that part but i disagree with the fact that he is saying that i will defiinitely take out the restricters if i have the bike. . i am sensible and even though i don't have experience of riding a bike on the road they are my passion and i respect the power . . but my cousin put a post up for me before about going straight to a R6 and the amount of negative replies that i got back really made me think if it was still a good idea to carry on and go through with the R6 but . . what i will say is that at the moment my mind is between the RVF and the VFR as to which one i decide to get when the day comes i really don't know .This talk is really great lmao considering i have to take my cbt in August . . but i'm not just some silly kid who wants to jump on to the biggest ''best looking'' , ''coolest'' bike i can . I just want to know my options and when the time comes make the best choice.thanks.kaz

[Mudskipper]

Erm...I am assuming you're planning on passing your test as soon as you are 17? You don't mention that anywhere.
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[kaz32]

Awrite , my bad yes i thought people would have guessed that but it don't matter . . yes on my birthday cbt then as quickly as possible go for the theory then restricted 33bhp after it .thanks.kaz

[Mudskipper]

Aha, that's clearer, thanks.

I'd agree with avoiding the R6 for now, get some riding under your belt. NC30/35 restricted will seem powerful enough after training school 125's.

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[kaz32]

No problem . . yeah it does seem smarter . thanks.kaz

[fzr_400]

first of all have you ever ridden a motorbike before?? i would even suggest going out on the back of one just to get a feel of things if you havent already. What you have to remember is a vfr/rvf has around 55-60hp where as a r6 has 100+, the vfr/rvf will have a top end of around 115mph the r6 around 160mph, not saying you will do this but just laying facts down, the r6 is also quite an agressive bike esspecially for a first bike, i would get the vfr/rvf at the best you can find, this doesnt mean spending lots of money but taking your time looking at the bikes, keep the restrictors in till you feel safe and ready to take them out, get used to cornering, acceleration and even braking as these are sharp, gradually build your confidence up then go out for a ride with fellow riders and build more confidence, once you are ready get the restrictors taken out if you wish, dont ever feel pressured to get them out quicker as you may come unstuck with them, just remember once they are taken out you are doubling your power and trust me it feels alot different!!!! Good luck with your test and think about the bike before you buy one, make sure its a gooden
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[paulodd]

^^^^
Can i have a '.' with that please Carol?

[kaz32]

Hey , thanks i hope i do . . yes i spoke to my dad it is possible that i am going to go for the RVF but am not entirely sure . . my friends don't have an interest in bikes at all . . They are trying there best to steer me away from getting one lmao as if thats going to happen . . yeah i have been on the back of a bike before but it was a long time ago . . my uncle who rides an R6 swapped it for a while with his friends GSXR600 and he is going to bring it round on a good day and take me out for a good run , a can't wait lmao . . yeah i have been getting tips from people who own VFR's and RVF's on what to lookout for when looking to buy one and they have been really helpful so thanks . . . As for now i am not sure as of what i want to buy , but it is probably between the two Honda's i guess they both seem like awesome bikes . . even though i haven't seen one in front of me for real . . i am going to get my dad to take me to a garage and see one and sit on it etc...thanks.kaz

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