Tightening Clutch bolts

[duncanpage]

Hi
Can anyone tell me what would happen if I tightened the clutch bolts more than the Haynes manual said to or if I didn't tighten them enough?

I ask because my clutch seems to be making funny noises when I change gear, I've changed the clutch plates & springs & tightened the bolts up to the specified torque settings. I'm wondering if my torque wrench is broken or if my old engine needs the bolts slightly tighter than usual?

My bike is 1996 D3 Kawasaki GPZ500S. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[bugsy46]

If you were to do them too tight then there would be too much spring force, if too loose then not enough force. I would be checking that you have built the clutch up correctly
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[duncanpage]

[bugsy46]

I take it you mean the grooves on the cork plates? If so that has nothing to do with it. What kind of noise is it making?
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[Pete.]

[duncanpage]

[Pete.]

I shouldn't worry about those noises they will most likely go away as the clutch beds-in. Even if they don't I still wouldn't worry.
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[bugsy46]

Ok, so if it doesnt make any difference then next time you change a clutch, nip up the spring so it isnt compressed and see how well your cluctch works. Its like trying to say preloading fork springs makes no difference to the suspension

that aside


how long did you soak your plates for? a few ive replaced when i havnt had time to soak them have produced a noisy clutch until the oil has worked its way into them. Dont worry about it its normal!
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Laura - "And where did looks come into this and bugsy leave steven alone. You are not gods gift to women you may think you are but you're not."
Keith - "All the best"

[Pete.]

[bugsy46]

Yes and this wasnt my diagnosis of the problem was it?

You will find I asked him to check his work

AND

I also asked him what kind of noise it made, which led to confirmation of dry plates chirping, which is a product of low soak time
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Laura - "And where did looks come into this and bugsy leave steven alone. You are not gods gift to women you may think you are but you're not."
Keith - "All the best"

[sickpup]

As Geri says as long as the bolt head is nipped to the shoulder of the clutch threaded boss the torque setting is pretty much irrelevant to the pre-loaded spring pressure.

[Pete.]

[bugsy46]

And even worse, your reply would mislead the guy into thinking a chirping clutch is ok! Now if somebody came into our workshop with the same problem and I told them ahhh if it doesnt go away its fine then that would be fucking them off I guess! Im sorry for misleading you duncan as I misread your post a little! At least now you have a theoretical reason for why the noise is there!
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Laura - "And where did looks come into this and bugsy leave steven alone. You are not gods gift to women you may think you are but you're not."
Keith - "All the best"

[Pete.]

It's not easy to diagnose "strange noises" over the internet. If it were brought into your workshop then you'd have the benefit of hearing the noise for yourself and could decide on the proper course of action. You said yourself that a noisy new clutch can be "normal". I did say that it was a good idea to check for proper assembly.

The other big difference between giving technical advice in person and over the internet is that on here it's not only the person asking the question that reads the answer, that's why it's so important for mistakes/ambiguous replies to be pointed-out. If your original reply was left unchallenged then it's possible that another person could be dashing off into the shed armed with a socket-set thinking they could cure their slipping clutch by clamping-down harder on the spring-bolts, possibly shearing bolts and certainly not fixing their clutch.
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a.k.a 'Geri'

132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[bugsy46]

Then that would be their fault by not adhering to torque settings! I never said "go and tighten up your bolts!!" ????
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Laura - "And where did looks come into this and bugsy leave steven alone. You are not gods gift to women you may think you are but you're not."
Keith - "All the best"

[Pete.]

Not difficult to imagine how you got your custom title really is it....
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a.k.a 'Geri'

132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good