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PostPosted: 14:52 - 24 Jun 2007    Post subject: getting evicted.... Reply with quote

Need some advice,


We are pretty much going to get evicted, I am looking after a dog for a friend who has lost his business and house. He has nowhere for the dog to go so we are looking after him for the time being.

It is against our contract to have dogs in the premises, our landlord even had a go at us for having a hamster, the neighbours upstairs are fucking idiots, they are that bad that when ever im in the gaden they have nothing better to do than stand at the window watching me for an hour at a time, even two hours yesterday.

My mum visited us from dorset yesterday and bought her dog with her, we tried introducing the dogs to see if they got on, they didnt so we put the dog im looking after back in the house. The neighbours have complained to the landlord that we have a dog. They have also said that yesterday we were mating the dogs in the garden.

Now the landlord came round today and we were having a heated conversation, the neighbours came out and stuck thier two pence in, stating we were mating the dogs yesterday. When I pointed out that they were talking bollocks as both dogs are fucking MALE, they decided to change their story. They are now saying we were promoting dog fighting and getting the dogs to fight. Again absolute tosh, my mums dog is soft as edam and we were trying to see if they would get on.

The whole thing got bigger until it ended with me telling the neighbours to fuck off and stop talking shit, then me and landlord started and that ended with me telling him I was gonna whack him.

He say's if the dog doesn't go we are getting evicted, I said well fucking evict us then. We are looking for a housing association and an eviction notice would help.

I also said that the dog is going nowhere till my mate has something sorted as I aint seeing it go to the dogs home.
His argument was that plenty of dogs live in kennels, so I said oh well thats fine then, plenty of people are murderers lets all go out stabbing.

He says under section twenty one of the housing act he only has to give 1 months notice, when I am pretty sure its two months.

Does any one know the script?

I have tried searching but cant find any info.


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PostPosted: 15:17 - 24 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on the type of agreement you have...but here's some infor which may be useful.


I have just received an eviction notice - what should I do?

First of all, don't panic. No one is going to make you leave your home straight away - by law you have to be given two months' notice and after this period a court order must be obtained. You have rights to appeal if you do not think your landlord has reason to apply for your eviction (see below). However, you do need to take action as soon as possible. Visit your local CAB (details are provided on www.nacab.org.uk) or contact National Debt Line on 0808 808 4000.


What is an assured shorthold tenancy - does this give me any other rights?

Since February 1997, all new private sector tenancies are assumed to be assured shorthold tenancies unless the agreement states otherwise or the landlord gives written notice that it is not.

A letting cannot be an assured or shorthold tenancy if:

* the tenancy began before 15 January, 1989;
* it is a company or holiday let;
* no rent, a very low rent or a very high rent is charged;
* the landlord lives at or shares the premises.

There are also some exceptions for former public sector rented accommodation being transferred to the private sector and where a long lease comes to an end.

Assured shorthold tenancies - the facts

Under new legislation, there is no longer a requirement for the tenancy to be for at least six months.
However, a court cannot grant an order of possession during the first six months of the tenancy except in limited circumstances; the most common of these are:

* rent arrears of at least eight weeks
* death of the tenant
* mortgagee exercising power of sale
* demolition or reconstruction of the property
* tenant has breached the terms of the agreement
* tenant or other person in occupation has allowed the property to fall into disrepair

After six months the landlord can apply to the court for possession, as long as the tenant has been given two months' notice.

When the original tenancy agreement comes to an end, the tenancy can either be terminated or the landlord can choose to let the tenancy continue as a Statutory Periodic Tenancy. The terms and conditions of the original tenancy still apply and the landlord can terminate the tenancy by giving two months' notice at any time in the future.

If the landlord does not renew the agreement, the tenant can stay on until the landlord gives notice that he or she wants to repossess the property.
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 24 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brilliant cheers pal. Thumbs Up Karma
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PostPosted: 15:37 - 24 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your landlord sounds like a w*nker and even more so your neighbours to. Getthe hell out and get a place. You should get a housing ex house but if its anything like here if your not an asylum seekers you have to wait 9 years. They left my pregnant mate and kid homeless because they had no where. If your on income support or something similar get your own place that takes DHSS because DHSS hate giving houses they prefer you got one and they pay for it. Make sure you look about for a decent landlord maybe one who dosnt mind dogs. I had a few landlrds that let me have pets so their not ll that bad. There are ones who are jumped up and try to rule your life because yuor in their house but when you pay for it your suppose to get privacy.
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 24 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't want to revel in constantly sniping at you Guv, but if you knew that your letting agreement banned dogs, why did you take in the Staff?

If you've breached your contract, your landlord is quite entitled to boot you out, having attended in person and asked you to comply with the rules. That said, sounds like he is trying to pull a fast one with the notice period.

I would suggest that you get down the to Citizens Advice Bureau as soon as possible, and get some help - as I'm sure you've already worked out, you need to get this right first time, and asking all us nasty gits on here is going to lead to a lot of confusing and inaccurate assistance!
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 24 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah you aint sniping James, and yeah I knew I breached it, I was just wondering whether I have the two months I thought or the one he is trying to pull. Looks like two, we are going to the housing place on wednesday, so that should give us some clues, anyone know the housing system in stockport?


We are not looking for housing benefit as we both work, just an affordable stable home what with the baby on the way.
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 24 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_guvnor_1_uk wrote:
Nah you aint sniping James, and yeah I knew I breached it, I was just wondering whether I have the two months I thought or the one he is trying to pull. Looks like two, we are going to the housing place on wednesday, so that should give us some clues, anyone know the housing system in stockport?


We are not looking for housing benefit as we both work, just an affordable stable home what with the baby on the way.


Its up to your landlord at the end of the day. I think if you breach your contract its terminated from that day but its at his descretion. If he turfs you out without notice i dont think you can do anything as lease was broken so i hope he gives you time to get a new place. Did you give him a deposite? Good luck getting that back they hate returning them. I was evicted one night at 10pm with a landlady who accused me of not paying for 5 months as there was no proff on her bank statements and i paid her in cash and had recipts and that didnt stand up as she said they where faked, she gave me 6 hours and tried stealing our car for compensation! Shocked I have had enough of weird landlords.
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 24 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just had a bit of a look, and it seems he has to give two months, regardless of contract. Its to protect tenants as well from what I can gather.
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 24 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weither he does is another thing. I have been through this before and was told because i broke the lease (which i didnt i had prove) i was out.

See what happens, only thing is when your looking for a place they want deposits and a month in advance up front and thats alot of money especially when your trying to save for a baby. That may help when your looking a new place though, they like to see couples who are having kids coming. For some reason they think you wont wreak the place Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 24 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesnt matter what he says he has to give two months.


And as for the matter of the deposit, I am not paying the last months rent, it means I WILL get the deposit back as i will tell him in writing that its easier than us giving the money then him giving it back as our deposit.


And whats he gonna do, physically throw me out, not much chance there i'm afraid.

It seems for once the law is helping tenants too.
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 24 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am glad to see there is a law helping tennants now pity there wasnt a few years ago some landlords think their god.

Thats what i would do with the deposite and always did as i knew i wouldnt see it again anyway.

I say he be stupid to try and throw you out anyway you would have to much fun with him lol
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PostPosted: 00:08 - 25 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can a landlord evict someone who is on a 'tagging system' restricted to a specific address? Laughing



On a serious note, if you ARE still on a tag, it may be a good idea to contact your probation officer immediately.
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PostPosted: 02:15 - 25 Jun 2007    Post subject: Re: getting evicted.... Reply with quote

the_guvnor_1_uk wrote:
It is against our contract to have dogs in the premises,

Now the landlord came round today and we were having a heated conversation,

The whole thing got bigger until it ended with me telling the neighbours to fuck off and stop talking shit, then me and landlord started and that ended with me telling him I was gonna whack him.


You just don't fucking learn do you? You thick cunt.
How the fuck can you say you just want a stable home etc because the missus is pregnant when it's YOU thats the fucking unstable one. Remenber that other thread? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 09:45 - 25 Jun 2007    Post subject: Re: getting evicted.... Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
the_guvnor_1_uk wrote:
It is against our contract to have dogs in the premises,

Now the landlord came round today and we were having a heated conversation,

The whole thing got bigger until it ended with me telling the neighbours to fuck off and stop talking shit, then me and landlord started and that ended with me telling him I was gonna whack him.


You just don't fucking learn do you? You thick cunt.
How the fuck can you say you just want a stable home etc because the missus is pregnant when it's YOU thats the fucking unstable one. Remenber that other thread? Rolling Eyes


You think he is unstable for telling his neighbours to fuck off? I would to if they where spouting shite about me to a landlord, my old neighbours say fit to tell my old landlord i stole cars and bikes when my other half builds trikes and bikes for people in the garage! i bloody well moved house.

I dont think gov is unstable for saying that, some neighbours are cunts and cant keep their noses out of other peoples affairs. Best for him to move into a etached house where you can keep your neighbours at a distance.
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 25 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there no way that you can sort it out with him? Try and reason with him - sometimes you just have to grin and bear these things unfortunately.

Hope you get it sorted mate.

I don't live too far away so if you need a van to move your stuff, for the cost of the petrol, give us a shout.
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 25 Jun 2007    Post subject: Re: getting evicted.... Reply with quote

dragonfly wrote:
You think he is unstable for telling his neighbours to fuck off?

No, do pay attention FFS.
By threatening his landlord with a beating he could be evicted TODAY. My folks rent out some property in the UK & on the 2 occassions physical threats have been made both of the former tenents were gone by the end of the day.
& he made it easy for the landlord by having witnesses present who will back up whatever the landlord says to the cops.... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 25 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guv, these will be able to advise you:- https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 25 Jun 2007    Post subject: Re: getting evicted.... Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
dragonfly wrote:
You think he is unstable for telling his neighbours to fuck off?

No, do pay attention FFS.
By threatening his landlord with a beating he could be evicted TODAY. My folks rent out some property in the UK & on the 2 occassions physical threats have been made both of the former tenents were gone by the end of the day.
& he made it easy for the landlord by having witnesses present who will back up whatever the landlord says to the cops.... Rolling Eyes


ok i totally missed the bit he said he would beat the landlord up, no violence gov!thats bold, it will land you in trouble and it wont solve anything. Just go and get another place for you and mother to be. Sort it out.
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 25 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

but what kind of Arse hole land lord would kick out a pregnant woman onto the streets.
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 25 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

yzf750r wrote:
but what kind of Arse hole land lord would kick out a pregnant woman onto the streets.


The one that kicked out my pregnant mate because she moved her other half in and he said that wasnt in the argreement. She was left to stay at a strangers house as her family were not happy about her pregnancy and the dhss took months after her baby was born to get her a house. Landlords will do anything, i personally hate ones that do unreasonable stuff to people.

My first landlady used to go through my stuff and her husband rigged up their electricity to mine and even the electricity board seen what they done! stole the tax book of a car we had (ex) and the car was broken in to day later.the landladies husband later died of electrocusion.
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 25 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

yzf750r wrote:
but what kind of Arse hole land lord would kick out a pregnant woman onto the streets.

You're missing the point: What kind of asshole would put his wife in that situation by threatening the property owner to begin with?
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 25 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

dragonfly wrote:
The one that kicked out my pregnant mate because she moved her other half in and he said that wasnt in the argreement.

HELLO? Who agreed to that when they moved in & signed the lease & who then violated that agreement? It's not the property owners fault that your pregnant friend is an idiot. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 25 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh ZRX you are a fucking prick! Obviously you've never done anything you're not meant to have done. Middle Finger
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 25 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
dragonfly wrote:
The one that kicked out my pregnant mate because she moved her other half in and he said that wasnt in the argreement.

HELLO? Who agreed to that when they moved in & signed the lease & who then violated that agreement? It's not the property owners fault that your pregnant friend is an idiot. Rolling Eyes


moving in her bf isnt a crime when she was paying the rent! its hardly something to throw someone out on the street for. So i take it you would have thrown her out to then. it didnt say she wasnt allowed to move people in its just cause she signed a lease. And why are you such an angel? have you never done something petty wrong? i am not starting a fight just interested in the way you work.
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 25 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

dragonfly wrote:
moving in her bf isnt a crime when she was paying the rent!

Apparently the property owner thought otherwise. If she had bothered to ASK before she moved him in she would have known she was contravening the lease... altho this kind of thing is usually written into the small print.. which I'm guessing she didn't actually read..

dragonfly wrote:
So i take it you would have thrown her out to then. it didnt say she wasnt allowed to move people in its just cause she signed a lease.

I wouldn't rent properties period, I leave that to other relatives, I want no part of the drama.

dragonfly wrote:
And why are you such an angel? have you never done something petty wrong? i am not starting a fight just interested in the way you work.

Petty? yeah, I break the speed limit ever time I get on the bike or nehind the wheel, sometimes before I get to the end of my drive. However, they have a very nice arrangement for this in most countries:
I get nabbed for speeding about an average of every 36 months. The fine is about $150 each time. This works out to approx $1/50p per week to ride or drive as fast as I want to ANY time I want.
I think that's pretty fair.
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