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Honda babe
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 26 Jun 2007    Post subject: lifesaver checks Reply with quote
Ok im a complete novice and have heard this term so was wondering what exactly are "lifesaver checks"

Im due to take my CBT shortly Im just waiting to hear back about when we can take it (I get it free through work!!)
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Trixie
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 26 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
A "lifesaver" is essentially a check over your shoulder (not using the mirror) just before making a manouvre.

Congrats on a free CBT! Thumbs Up
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Honda babe
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 26 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks, one of the perks for working for Mr Honda Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 26 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ooh you work for Honda, what do you do?

Congrats on the free CBT! I wont explain the lifesaver as its already been done, but good luck!
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teampots
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PostPosted: 22:53 - 26 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
just quote this for you


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LIFESAVER CHECKS

The following is a guide to the use of lifesaver checks. The purpose of this document is not to suggest lifesavers are more important than any other part of advanced riding but it is the part most new associates have difficulty with
PULLING AWAY
When pulling away check over both shoulders
TURNING RIGHT OR LEFT
Before turning right or left you should check the appropriate blind spot before turning your bike
CHANGING LANE
Before changing lane or entering a hatched turning refuge or entering or leaving a motorway check the gap you are moving into is clear
ROUNDABOUTS
Check over right hand shoulder on entering roundabouts and left hand shoulder before exiting for anyone on your offside or nearside
CHANGE OF SPEED LIMITS
On entering speed limits check for anyone who might not be slowing and trying to overtake you. When leaving speed limits you should check for anyone accelerating too early (just my 2p i was told that a quick mirror check both mirrors before changing speeds is probably just as good)
OVERTAKING
Preferably, before pulling out and pulling back, however forward vision may well be more appropriate for developing situations - providing good mirror checks have been carried out.
SUMMARY
With all shoulder checks, safety must be your prime objective at all times in particular where forward vision may be more appropriate in a developing situation.



got it off https://www.twamm.co.uk/html/riding_tips.html

should be of help, you will be told on your cbt countless times as well
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meyrick
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 26 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jayd wrote:
Lifesaver is only needed on your left shoulder when you are turning into a side road and needing to cross a cycle lane or similar Thumbs Up


At the risk of being redundant, they are also required when turning right to avoid getting mashed by folks trying to overtake (for example).
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tonshar
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PostPosted: 08:38 - 27 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jayd wrote:
Lifesaver is only needed on your left shoulder when you are turning into a side road and needing to cross a cycle lane or similar Thumbs Up


I think you should learn some safety or you wont last long on a bike !
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Honda babe
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PostPosted: 09:10 - 27 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
rdm3ch wrote:
Ooh you work for Honda, what do you do?

Congrats on the free CBT! I wont explain the lifesaver as its already been done, but good luck!


I work in Retail Finance Very Happy

Im still waiting to hear about when my CBT is and im getting twitchy feet now Sad
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Trixie
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 27 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
So do you get staff discount on buying bikes?! Wink Laughing
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Honda babe
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 27 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Trixie wrote:
So do you get staff discount on buying bikes?! Wink Laughing


Yes I do, although we can get a bike through our loan scheme (which includes everything except the petrol)

As soon as the CBT is done i'll be getting the CBR125 for a while then its off to do my DAS at Quickstart.
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PostPosted: 09:29 - 27 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Now that's what I call a perk of the job. You lucky, lucky person...I'm soooo jealous!!! Laughing
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Honda babe
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PostPosted: 10:28 - 27 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thankyou Smile

It has taken me this long to organise my CBT as I was not allowed near a bike when I was with the ex!!!
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 27 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jayd wrote:
Lifesaver is only needed on your left shoulder when you are turning into a side road and needing to cross a cycle lane or similar Thumbs Up


Ignore the above ^^^^^^^
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iloveriding
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 27 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jayd wrote:
Lifesaver is only needed on your left shoulder when you are turning into a side road and needing to cross a cycle lane or similar Thumbs Up


Jayd please tell me you are not a biker!
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Steven_85
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 27 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Would not like to be around when he get's taken out while turning right, or being on the back of him Shocked
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Jayd
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 27 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
iloveriding wrote:
Jayd wrote:
Lifesaver is only needed on your left shoulder when you are turning into a side road and needing to cross a cycle lane or similar Thumbs Up


Jayd please tell me you are not a biker!
Tony


Forgive me for not clearing this up. I was talking soley about the left hand lifesaver, as I assumed people would realise that you need a right lifesaver every time you turn right. Apolgies for not making it clear. Yes, I do ride bikes, yes, I do my lifesavers.

Regards.
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 29 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
I got on a pedal for the first time in about 14 years yesterday and i was doing lifesavers.

You need to they save your life and when your in the habit you will always do them. Have thanked this many of times when a driver has had me of the road.
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 30 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi honda Babe and all
to answer original question.what is a life saver?
as there are many kinds of observation
mirror, a glance, a shoulder check and a life saver.
this is only my opinion. "a life saver of any direction is a look to where the point of danger at the last point you can abort " (eg if pulling right out of a t junction I would take a clear look to my left and just before pulling out look again at a point i can still abort the manoeuver)I would consider a life saver at many points throughout a ride.
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PostPosted: 09:33 - 30 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
dragonfly wrote:
I got on a pedal for the first time in about 14 years yesterday and i was doing lifesavers.

You need to they save your life and when your in the habit you will always do them. Have thanked this many of times when a driver has had me of the road.

yeah its strange getting on a push bike after riding motorbikes, i keep pulling in 'clutch' (read that as front brake) and flying over the bars,
i must for get to stop doing that it hurts
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 30 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
eddclarke wrote:

yeah its strange getting on a push bike after riding motorbikes, i keep pulling in 'clutch' (read that as front brake) and flying over the bars,
i must for get to stop doing that it hurts

Shouldn't your clutch hand be the back brake on a push bike...

I can't seem to find the rear brake when I go back on my pushbike Very Happy
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 30 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
truslack wrote:
eddclarke wrote:

yeah its strange getting on a push bike after riding motorbikes, i keep pulling in 'clutch' (read that as front brake) and flying over the bars,
i must for get to stop doing that it hurts

Shouldn't your clutch hand be the back brake on a push bike...

I can't seem to find the rear brake when I go back on my pushbike Very Happy

mine are the other way round, ive set it up so its the same hand i use to brake on the motorbike as the mountain bike
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 30 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
truslack wrote:
eddclarke wrote:

yeah its strange getting on a push bike after riding motorbikes, i keep pulling in 'clutch' (read that as front brake) and flying over the bars,
i must for get to stop doing that it hurts

Shouldn't your clutch hand be the back brake on a push bike...

I can't seem to find the rear brake when I go back on my pushbike Very Happy


I forget to pedel! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 30 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ok not sure if this is true or not, or wether i just heard my CBT instructor completely wrong, but he told me an easy way to remember a lifesaver was that its always thrown over the opposite shoulder to the direction you are about to turn, i.e. for a left hand turn, you would mirror, signal, then throw a lifesaver over your right shoulder. Is this correct?
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 30 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
as long as you knew that there were no pushbikes coming up your lefthandside
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