filtering over hatched areas/solid white lines?

carlmalibu · Spanner Monkey Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Karma :

so, where do people stand on this?

example 1: NSL road, single carraigeway, car in front pulls to the left so you can pass, but you might drift slightly over solid white lines, what do you do?

example 2: stationary/crawling traffic, safe to filter, but requires crossing solid white lines, do you?

example 3: same as 2 but theres a hatched area with broken white lines, maybe 2 foot wide, do you filter past traffic here?

example 4: same as 2/3 but hatched area with solid white lines

I'm interested in peoples opinions, especially those related to law enforcement agencies.
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iooi · Super Spammer Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Karma :

1. Would depend on whats comming the other way, but really should be NO
2. Mostly NO. If nothing is comming other way and i can see a safe place to pull in and i can see no police i may go. But get caught and its Confused

a fine.
3. Do it all the time. Have even passed police cars.
4. As 3.

Most of these are judgemant calls on what is comming the other way and if any police are around. Cross a solid line, and they can say that any part of you crosses it, not just a wheel is a pullable offence.
Better not to cross solid ones.
I think hattched markings are supposed to be considered as a cheap version of islands. ie you are not supposed to enter them. Also they seem to attract a lot of crap and can be very slippery on breaking.
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Whosthedaddy · Super Spammer Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Karma :

All sorts of opinions in this:

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=108343

and then again in:

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=116846
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NSR Mick · World Chat Champion Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Karma :

Solid lines no. Broken lines yes, it's a simple as that.
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Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

Nope, don't go over solid white lines. Open season on broken borders though.

All the best

Keith
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Pete. · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Karma :

Solid lines means you can only enter in an emergency. I take that to mean taking avoiding action/woman giving birth in the back seat etc. I would expect it includes no entry to overtake a broken-down vehicle etc but I'd consider that to be a bit rediculous.

Broken-lines means don't enter unless you have to. I'd take that to mean enter to move around an obstruction like a broken-down vehicle but I would think it doesn't include simply overtaking. The purpose of the hatched area is "to keep apart dangerous lanes of traffic and protect vehicles turning right" so if you used it as an overtaking lane it wouldn't be serving it's purpose.
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MattEMulsion · World Chat Champion Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Karma :

Haven't you ever heard the phrase: 'Treat a solid white line as if it was a brick wall'?
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Finglonga · World Chat Champion Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Karma :

As Mick & Keith say, no ifs no buts. Thumbs Up

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repiV · Spanner Monkey Joined: 15 May 2007 Karma :

I do all of the above, but that's not a rule as such. It really depends on the situation. I'm not going to refrain from crossing a solid white line just because it's a solid white line - if it isn't safe to filter, I won't do it, regardless of whether the line is solid or broken.
Evidently road markings were designed with great hulking lumps of metal with about as much torque as an elephant in mind, not narrow, agile bikes.

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doggone · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 May 2004 Karma :

You can drive on hatched areas if they don't have a solid line round the edge.
Best avoided by and large as they tend to attract puncture causing items.
Solid lines in the centre may be 'cautiously' crossed to pass stationary or very slow vehicles.

Finglonga · World Chat Champion Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Karma :

Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

Yep, amoung others. Fair few bits of the A518 like that as well.

To be honest I just treat them as a way to make it easier for people to overtake.

All the best

Keith
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repiV · Spanner Monkey Joined: 15 May 2007 Karma :

snapperslappe... · Scooby Slapper Joined: 03 Jun 2006 Karma :

soilid whites usually entail close contact with oncomming traffic, so i tend never to filter/overtake on them ( bar a fully open straight, with no view obstructions and a clear view of oncomming nutters ). Still, there always seems to be a shagged out escort caining it around a blind corner struggling to overtake a 38 tonner were ever you find a set of these markings......

filtering on hatchings though Thumbs Up

.....still, i always get back into a que when comming upto the zig zag sections of pedestrian crossings.

doggone · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 May 2004 Karma :

What is true is that to some extent the solid white line system has been abused in recent years.

They used to be only applied where it was very unsafe to attempt an overtake.

Then they seemed to start extending them until now sometimes they run for miles at a time.
This is not a good way to encourage drivers never mind bike riders to respect them.

Pete. · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Karma :

Having just checked the rules online it says you should not enter etc for diagonal lines etc and you must not enter for chevrons. Going by that I'd take it to mean that only entering an area marked by chevrons is a nick in it's own right.

LeeR · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Karma :

Okay, personally as follows:

firefox · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Karma :

they can do you for it.
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LeeR · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Karma :

The highway code says:

Louise · World Chat Champion Joined: 22 May 2006 Karma :

I never really learnt anything about lines so I struggle when it comes to filtering or not Confused

Place from Brighton to the A27 has one long road with islands every 'X' amount of meters apart. It has the lines (Crappy photo sorry) and I filter over them all the time.
Now, ive always thought they were lines to tell you there is a hazard coming up (the islands)
Correct if im wrong? Can I filter? Ive past a few cop cars and they haven't pulled me.
I generally follow other bikers.... Which I guess will land me in trouble, so is there a site where I can check all the white lines, what they mean, and if its safe to filter. Embarassed

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st3v3 · Super Spammer Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Karma :

Fully agree with Mick, although if on a dual carriageway somewhere you have never been, and you don't have a clue if you turn off next exit, or stay on, you can switch at the last minute(which has a hatched area and solid white line) Cool

(provided it's safe to do so, or there's no other traffic affected/around)
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