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Mary Jane
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Photography - wide angle lens? Reply with quote

I know there are quite a few photography buffs on this site, so I'm asking for a little help.

I've tried google and ebay, but maybe my searches aren't being worded correctly, because I'm not coming up with the product I'm looking for. Also: google keeps returning only the USA cannon site in my searches. :/

What I'm looking for is a wide-angle lens that will mount on the body of my Cannon EOS digital camera.

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PostPosted: 17:24 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prolly 'cos it's a Canon, not Cannon.

Here: https://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-9875.aspx
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you're after an EF lens. BRB.
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, have a look for EF lenses for the EOS.
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

bazza wrote:
Prolly 'cos it's a Canon, not Cannon.

Here: https://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-9875.aspx


>< damn! I knew it had to be some stupid mistake I was making!

Very Happy thanks!
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I blame Canon for all of my photographical problems, with their lack of lens interchangeability.
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the Sigma 10-20 lens for my 350D. Bloody good piece of kit IMO....
Cracking quality for the price here
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

How wide angle do you want? I have the 17-40 F4 which works well. There are wider angle lenses avaiable, but not sure how much they would be used in reality.

That Tesco page that bazza linked to seems strange. Picture of one lense then spends the description talking about the 70-300 (also the price given for the 20-35 is about double what you can get it for in the UK).

For lense reviews check https://www.fredmiranda.com .

To get a reasonable idea who has the best price in the UK try:-

https://www.camerapricebuster.co.uk/

All the best

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PostPosted: 22:07 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now this is one hell of a wide angle shot! Amazing clarity too!

https://www.trisweb.com/photos/albums/bay-area/bay_merge_wide.jpg
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Messy wrote:
Now this is one hell of a wide angle shot! Amazing clarity too!

https://www.trisweb.com/photos/albums/bay-area/bay_merge_wide.jpg


I'm pretty sure that's just a couple of photos that have been "stitched" together, you can see the join marks.
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that shot was made by merging several photos together. You can see where the images are "spliced" in the sky; they are all distinctly different colors/tones.

I'm not sure exactly how wide an angle I'd like, still looking around. The link you gave for comparing prices is incredibly helpful, kickstart. Smile
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PostPosted: 06:57 - 10 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canon do the 10-22mm which is as wides as you'll get I think, it costs about 500 quid but it's widely regarded as a fantastic piece of kit. If you're budget doesnt stretch that far I think Tamron and Tonkina both do comparable lenses for a lot less money. Here's some pics taken with the 10-22mm (not mine sadly)



https://static.flickr.com/110/290120626_bdbc325e25.jpg

https://static.flickr.com/104/290119655_ebfdf4e65c.jpg

https://static.flickr.com/122/290117521_99aca853fe.jpg

https://static.flickr.com/114/290112709_7c8e2f6065.jpg

https://static.flickr.com/110/290121534_2a5631a83f.jpg
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PostPosted: 09:20 - 10 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

pwntifex wrote:
I blame Canon for all of my photographical problems, with their lack of lens interchangeability.


Old saying..
A bad tradesman always blames his tools.

Quintessentially you.
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 10 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:

Old saying..
A bad tradesman always blames his tools.

Quintessentially you.

I may be a bad tradesman, but at least I'm not a tool. Wink
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 10 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

What model EOS do you have? The 350D and the 400D are 1.6x crop cameras so you'll waste the lower end of the zoom (10mm lens = 16mm on a 1.6 crop camera). If you have something like the 5D then 10mm actually = 10mm.

Be worth keeping in mind when purchasing.

Smile

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PostPosted: 12:56 - 10 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

pwntifex wrote:
Walloper wrote:

Old saying..
A bad tradesman always blames his tools.

Quintessentially you.

I may be a bad tradesman, but at least I'm not a tool. Wink

That's entirely subject to personal opinion.

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PostPosted: 13:06 - 10 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

ali-b wrote:
What model EOS do you have? The 350D and the 400D are 1.6x crop cameras so you'll waste the lower end of the zoom (10mm lens = 16mm on a 1.6 crop camera). If you have something like the 5D then 10mm actually = 10mm.

Be worth keeping in mind when purchasing.

Smile

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I do have a 350D. So if a 10mm lens = 16mm on a 1.6 crop, would a 18mm lens = 28.8? Or would it still be 18?

Thanks!
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 10 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Yes, an 18mm would be the equivalent of a 28.8

Even some of the more expensive EOS 1's have a 1.3 crop.

I forgot to mention that the 1.6 crop also lets you shoot through the 'sweet spot' of most lenses so you get a good picture from corner to corner more often than not. Full format cameras sometimes need correction in Photoshop (or similar) to deal with the light loss in the corners.

What are you wanting to take pictures of?

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PostPosted: 13:26 - 10 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

ali-b wrote:


What are you wanting to take pictures of?

A.



'scapes, mostly. landscape/cityscapes, etc...


It's nice to know the 1.6 doesn't interfere too much in picture quality. Smile

You seem to know a lot; amateur or pro?
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 10 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

pwntifex wrote:
Walloper wrote:

Old saying..
A bad tradesman always blames his tools.

Quintessentially you.

I may be a bad tradesman, but at least I'm not a tool. ***Said in my rather effemminate squeek***. Wink

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PostPosted: 13:37 - 10 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most definitely 'enthusiastic amateur' Smile its something I love doing, but haven't quite made it my job Wink

I have got a few bits on iStockPhoto - nature, bikes, people, and I've been shooting portfolios for friends (opera singers mainly, but have done a couple of other people shoots). I've started doing weddings too now.

I'll PM you my web address when my new site is live if you want a look.

Picture quality isn't affected by the crop factor that much, you only notice the difference in sensor quality. I've shot some great images using a 400D (and prior to that a 350D).

The thing you'll be needing more than anything else for shooting some of the city scape type images (pictured above in another post) is a decent, heavy-ish tripod (some tripods have a little hook in the centre that you can hang your camera bag from to add weight and stability. The long shutter speed will highlight any and all movement of the body.

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PostPosted: 14:05 - 10 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

ali-b wrote:
Most definitely 'enthusiastic amateur' Smile its something I love doing, but haven't quite made it my job Wink

I have got a few bits on iStockPhoto - nature, bikes, people, and I've been shooting portfolios for friends (opera singers mainly, but have done a couple of other people shoots). I've started doing weddings too now.

I'll PM you my web address when my new site is live if you want a look.

Picture quality isn't affected by the crop factor that much, you only notice the difference in sensor quality. I've shot some great images using a 400D (and prior to that a 350D).

The thing you'll be needing more than anything else for shooting some of the city scape type images (pictured above in another post) is a decent, heavy-ish tripod (some tripods have a little hook in the centre that you can hang your camera bag from to add weight and stability. The long shutter speed will highlight any and all movement of the body.

A.

Yeah, I've got a tripod, but it's a very lightweight one. I could jury-rig a hook on it.

I'd love to take a look at some of the photos you've taken as well, so please let me know when you've got your site up. Smile

Do you have any links to your stuff on istockphoto?

Thanks.
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 10 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another thing you may want to consider; if you plump for the Canon 10-22 EF-S, the S stands for short back-focus. It's designed specifically for the crop sensor D-SLRs such as the 350. As a result, if (and most probably when) you become addicted and decide to invest in a full frame body, the 10-22 won't be compatible.

Saying that, I bought the very same lens earlier this year, and 'tis very nice Smile (cost about 460 quid if I recall correctly).
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 10 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

15mm fish on a 5D. You can't see them but my shoes were up against the wall.
Second shot. The camera was just above the head of the dark haired lady at the bottom of the image, perhaps just 6 inches away. I might buy another 5D just for this lens, works a treat.
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 10 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mary Jane wrote:

Yeah, I've got a tripod, but it's a very lightweight one. I could jury-rig a hook on it.

I'd love to take a look at some of the photos you've taken as well, so please let me know when you've got your site up. Smile

Do you have any links to your stuff on istockphoto?

Thanks.


Anything to provide stability on long exposures, even wind *can* affect the stability of a shot. If you're shooting landscapes, especially at the coast, you can get a lot of it Wink ......have you seen the special tripods that let you take several successive shots with the right perspective for accurate stitching in Photoshop? They can be expensive though Sad

I'll PM when its done - I'm actually just coming up with the last bits of wording so fingers crossed it'll be up during the weekend....wording is the hardest part for me as I'm not particularly gifted in....well....English Wink

J_A_Y makes a good point as well - EFS lenses are for cropped cameras. If you can get a full format lens that still shoots well on a cropped body then that might be a better idea. I have a Sigma that does quite well on both - its not up to the same quality as a Canon L series or anything, but it served pretty well.

Fisheyes are brill Very Happy always wanted one.

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