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PostPosted: 08:31 - 14 Jul 2007    Post subject: Rifle clubs... Reply with quote

Seeing as there has been a recent spout of air rifle threads i thought i would ask a question thats been bothering me for a few months.

I want an air rifle mainly because im joining the army soon and wish to become a sniper so practice is going to be incredibly helpful. I have been to the AFCO's in Reading, Oxford and many other places so i know how difficult it may become.

My parents wont let me have an air rifle unless i join a rifle club, being young i don't really know of any and Google only brings up a university club in the area...

does anyone know of any in the south east or any at all?


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PostPosted: 08:33 - 14 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yellow pages. Can't you shoot .22's instead? I did 25 yards prone target shooting when i was about 16 and really enjoyed it.
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PostPosted: 08:34 - 14 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

East Grinstead Target Shooting club was where I did it in the SE by the way
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PostPosted: 09:33 - 14 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

That one is a bit far for me but thanks i will look in the yellow pages.

What do you mean by cant i shoot .22's explain please Mr. Green

i understand the calibre part just not the context of it. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 14 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

jackw72 wrote:
What do you mean by cant i shoot .22's explain please Mr. Green

i understand the calibre part just not the context of it. Thumbs Up


I was with the uni rifle club for a while and did some .22 rifle shooting.

Basically its small calibre ammo and used for shooting small animals and such.

Like Toby R says 25 yard range is relaly fun as the target looks so small and you have to try and get the target as a whole right in the centre of your scope to get your shot anywhere near the middle (though i managed it Cool )

If you thinking of becoming a sniper this is a must, unless you have a proper rifle range around but i think they are few and far between Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:13 - 14 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The yellow pages did not bring any real results a few but they are a bit too far out of the way.

I shot off a couple of emails to some clubs to see if they knew of any in the area so should get a few replies.

so .22 25 yard range is a priority for me i guess. my back garden is 100ft but it is sloping downhill think i could practice there?

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PostPosted: 10:21 - 14 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

jackw72 wrote:
so .22 25 yard range is a priority for me i guess. my back garden is 100ft but it is sloping downhill think i could practice there?

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Im not 100% sure but i think that would be a no no. There are quite a lot of safety laws about this. I had to leave all my ammo at the club as wasn't allowed to take it outside the premises (though some did)

Id also recommend clay pigeon. Its great fun and you can go in a group and have a laugh while there.
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 14 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 15:03 - 14 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

go look at airplanes Razz

i did Google but nothing local came up obviously 10 minutes later after waking up slightly i looked through them i was just pondering on any local knowledge however.
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PostPosted: 01:39 - 15 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ONLY thing you'l learn from some pissy little .22 that will help you become an Army sniper is which way to bloody point it... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 08:36 - 15 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a look at the national rifle association website.
and if you want to be a sniper, you need to learn marksmanship. Firing a .22 at 25 yards will just teach you to be an incredibly stable gun platform.
Find a club that shoots 7.62mm at a decent outdoor range (Bisley), and learn to get decent scores on the 1000 yard range with pissing rain and variable winds.
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PostPosted: 09:31 - 15 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
The ONLY thing you'l learn from some pissy little .22 that will help you become an Army sniper is which way to bloody point it... Rolling Eyes


I dont see why. Yea they dont kick back at all but you get to aim a rifle at a relatively small target so its a start. Its not like theres a place around the corner that has a rifle range.
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 15 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

some helpful contributions! Thumbs Up

knowing which way to point would help, possibly the US's friendly fire me thinks maybe we should give them courses Shocked Twisted Evil

(no offense or anything Mr. Green )

only looking for a start too so i have gotta start somewhere!

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PostPosted: 13:49 - 15 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

are you over 17?
fuck your parents and just buy one!

you have the dad, ill have the mum Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 15 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

They had a decent range next to the old drill hall round these parts.

It was always manned by a load of guys who knew what they were talking about and would help out the new kids when they came in. Wouldn't stand for any crap or messing about and just generally taught how to respect firearms and deal with them properly.

They knocked the drill hall down when the local college said they would provide all new facilities for basketball, football etc and they built apartments on the old site.

The head of the college then decided that he didn't like guns of any sort and that there would be no replacement range on the campus. Mad

So what are you left with? A load of 15 year olds with rifles and nowhere to fire them legally. But they will still want to use them won't they. So they end up without any knowledge or respect firing 177's at passing cars.

What a nob end.
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 15 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
The ONLY thing you'l learn from some pissy little .22 that will help you become an Army sniper is which way to bloody point it... Rolling Eyes
i assumed he was too young to shoot fullbore Wink
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 15 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am 17 and a half pretty much exactly. 18 is the limit for full bore is it not???

Matt that was a good post made me lol Mr. Green Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 15 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

youd be suprised what an air rifle can teach you

My first rifle was a pump up benjamin franklin 342 which i used to go rabbitin with every day. It taught me a lot about shot placement stalking how the wind and distance will affect the shot the use of camo and most important gun safety.



I now have a air arms s200 air gun in .22 which is a precharge and good up to 40yrds.

And a Remington mod700 in 308 cal which is a cracking long range sniping gun and has very little kick.

Most military sniper rifles are designed to have very little recoil to prevent scope creap and to make long range retargeting easyer after a shot.

Go down to a shooting club and ask about what is best for you as picking a rifle for what you want to do is not as easy as just shelf buying.

If you get a air gun you need something your comfortable with and can hold for long periods of time without getting tired.

If you go rimfire or centerfire your gonna need a firearms licence which to get you need a reason to own a gun. And have a secure place to store it in which a firearms officer will come out to inspect.


a good idea would be to get an air rifle and pester the local farmers for land to shoot then apply for a firearms licence using this as a reason. Thats what i did

Once you finally have your gun hitting a stationary target is pointless military targets dont stand still they are unpredictable and can move.
Make yourself a ghillie suit and get out in the fields and learn to wait quietlly. Waiting for bunnys to come your way dressed in full camo it sounds easy but after 30 minutes laying in the rain and mud your arms go numb and you get bored and fidgety.

I once had a group of about 30 scouts sit down and have a rest within 10 meters of me on one shoot. Dident think they would appreciate a grass monster with a gun jumping up so i stayed quiet till they buggered off Confused .


As for shooting in your garden thats a big NO if a pellet richochets into a neighbours yard and they report you its classes as armed tresspass and armed responce WILL be sent out.
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 16 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

now that was a reply i was looking for Twisted Evil

a year ago I told my parents that i was going to make my own ghillie suit they promptly looked at me like a Muppet. Very Happy but fuck them its my passion and its what i want to do! (i even said this just it still made no sense to them)

now i am going to look into it again and make my own.

Is it strange that the thought of laying in earth in a stripped bush with a gun waiting for a rabbit is something i look forward too.

On the land part a close friend of mine (more her parents) own a lot of land pretty much in the countryside they themselves have an air rifle and shoot it at targets on trees would that pass as land for shooting?

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